MY Atkins book says otherwise and there’s a whole page of similar GIGO RED FLAGS that just aren’t supported by data.

I think I smell an agenda site at http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:ytOQUOhJp3IJ:www.fibermenace.com/gutsense/flora.html+fibermenace+laughingstock&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk

[candidiasis] Digest Number 5900

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There are 23 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1a. Re: HELP: remedies for gut inflammation

From: Katherine McKelvey

1b. Re: HELP: remedies for gut inflammation

From: Emily NK Chan

2a. Re: Lactose intolerance http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactose_intoler

From: MM

2b. Re: Lactose intolerance http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactose_intoler

From: Wil Spencer

2c. Re: Lactose intolerance http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactose_intoler

From: DuncanC

2d. Re: Lactose intolerance, keep exploiting gullibles.

From: MM

2e. Re: Lactose intolerance http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactose_intoler

From: MM

3a. Re: 100% cured – Jaye

From: algaelady1

3b. Re: 100% cured – Jaye

From: Wil Spencer

3c. Re: 100% cured – Jaye

From: beth

3d. Re: 100% cured – Jaye

From: Wil Spencer

3e. Re: 100% cured – Jaye

From: Wil Spencer

3f. Re: 100% cured – Jaye

From: DuncanC

4. Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS

From: IMS

5a. Re: Candida diet = wasting away…

From: DuncanC

5b. Re: Candida diet = wasting away…

From: toddroberts2001  aol.com

6a. Fiber 3rd most abundant component in human milk

From: DuncanC

6b. Re: Fiber 3rd most abundant component in human milk

From: Wil Spencer

6c. Re: Fiber 3rd most abundant component in human milk

From: DuncanC

7. d-mannose

From: Janet Groneman

8a. Candida diet = wasting away…Duncan

From: Paspenc5  cs.com

8b. Re: Candida diet = wasting away…Duncan

From: sol

8c. Re: Candida diet = wasting away…Duncan

From: DuncanC

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1a. Re: HELP: remedies for gut inflammation

Posted by: “Katherine McKelvey” kmmckelvey  yahoo.co.uk kmmckelvey

Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:30 am ((PST))

Hi Emily

Aloe Vera is a wonderful anti inflammatory. Very soothing for the gut. L-Glutamine is also very good for the lining of the digestive tract, plus it’s a natural antacid.

Katherine McKelvey

Forever Living Products Independent Distributor

— On Thu, 12/11/09, emilynk.chan <emilynk.chan  yahoo.com> wrote:

From: emilynk.chan <emilynk.chan  yahoo.com>

Subject: [candidiasis] HELP: remedies for gut inflammation

To: candidiasis  yahoogroups.com

Date: Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 3:58

Hi Listmates,

My son has gut inflammation as indicated on his CDSA stool test. The GI physician wants him scoped before he will prescribe medication for him.

I am reluctant to have him scoped and will try to find another doctor willing to prescribe without scoping. In the meantime, does anyone know what natural remedies I can give my son to help with the colonic inflammation? I will be running another IgG and IgE food panel test to recheck his allergies and take him off any allergic food. He is currently also on antifungal (Nizoral) and truck loads of probiotic (including mutaflor).

Any input would be hugely appreciated.

Regards,

Emily

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1b. Re: HELP: remedies for gut inflammation

Posted by: “Emily NK Chan” emilynk.chan  yahoo.com emilynk.chan

Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:27 pm ((PST))

What form of aloe vera?  Organic aloe vera juice from health food stores?

Thanks

— On Thu, 11/12/09, Katherine McKelvey <kmmckelvey  yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

From: Katherine McKelvey <kmmckelvey  yahoo.co.uk>

Subject: Re: [candidiasis] HELP: remedies for gut inflammation

To: candidiasis  yahoogroups.com

Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 11:29 AM

Hi Emily

Aloe Vera is a wonderful anti inflammatory. Very soothing for the gut. L-Glutamine is also very good for the lining of the digestive tract, plus it’s a natural antacid.

Katherine McKelvey

Forever Living Products Independent Distributor

— On Thu, 12/11/09, emilynk.chan <emilynk.chan   yahoo.com> wrote:

From: emilynk.chan <emilynk.chan   yahoo.com>

Subject: [candidiasis] HELP: remedies for gut inflammation

To: candidiasis   yahoogroups. com

Date: Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 3:58

Hi Listmates,

My son has gut inflammation as indicated on his CDSA stool test. The GI physician wants him scoped before he will prescribe medication for him.

I am reluctant to have him scoped and will try to find another doctor willing to prescribe without scoping. In the meantime, does anyone know what natural remedies I can give my son to help with the colonic inflammation?

I will be running another IgG and IgE food panel test to recheck his allergies and take him off any allergic food. He is currently also on antifungal (Nizoral) and truck loads of probiotic (including mutaflor).

Any input would be hugely appreciated.

Regards,

Emily

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2a. Re: Lactose intolerance http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactose_intoler

Posted by: “MM” medmidas  gmail.com gesigars

Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:15 am ((PST))

Lactase is an enzyme produced by a gland inside our body,

& is supposed to remain active till the age of 3,

beyond which it usually becomes inefficient or inactive.

Few infants, babies are  born with less  efficient gland &

get symptoms of *Lactose intolerance.

“*The enzymes are actually created in our body by the microorganisms”

need correction.

My post does not cover allergy to milk, which is different from intolerance.

For info on *Lactose intolerance, see link,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactose_intolerance

*

*Lactose intolerance* is the inability to metabolize

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metabolism> lactose

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactose>, a sugar found in milk

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milk> and other dairy

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dairy> products, because the required

enzyme lactase <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactase> is absent in the

intestinal system or its availability is lowered. It is estimated that

75% of adults worldwide show some decrease in lactase activity during

adulthood.^[1]

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactose_intolerance#cite_note-0> The

frequency of decreased lactase activity ranges from as little as 5% in

northern Europe, up to 71% for Southern Europe, to more than 90% in some

African and Asian countries.^[2]

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactose_intolerance#cite_note-autogenerated3-1>

Wil Spencer wrote:

> Are you taking any probiotics?

> It is the microorganisms in the gut that do the life transfer from our food to us not enzymes.  The enzymes break open the cellular wall to allow the release of the amino acids and make availalble to the microorganisms.

>

> The enzymes are actually created in our body by the microorganisms

> from the amino acids and minerals from our food. This is why the

> probiotics are so important!!

> Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: guitarnola <guitarnola  yahoo.com>

> To: candidiasis  yahoogroups.com

> Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 9:01:24 PM

> Subject: [candidiasis] Fat and candida

>

>

> I have severe fat malabsorption and wonder if this is a part of why I am not feeling better following a high fat/low carb diet.  I stay away from sugar completely and have felt no improvement after 5 months.  I just started a pancreatic enzyme for fat malabsorption and seems to be helping based on what is coming out of me.  Should I switch to a low fat diet?

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

>

>

> ————————————

>

> Candidiasis stories:

> http://CureZone.com/forums/f.asp?f=41

> http://CureZone.com/dis/

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2b. Re: Lactose intolerance http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactose_intoler

Posted by: “Wil Spencer” wilspencer  rocketmail.com wilspencer  rocketmail.com

Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:23 am ((PST))

I think you need to do some educating of things.  Candice Perth PhD in her lecture, Your Body is Your Subconscious Mind, has stated my original comment.  You can find more info by reading the new science of Quantum Physics.  The other authors include Dawson Church PhD, Bruce Lipton PhD, and several more.

As Bruce Lipton PhD has stated in his talk titled “The New Biology-Where Mind and Matter Meet”  he states it takes at least 10-15 years for the new science to be in the educational system and out to the world.  This new science is really shaking the old paradigm of just symptom relief and fear.  We are witnessing it even right here in this group!  So you all are getting the new science 10 years before even the University Professors in the text books.  How exciting is this!!!!!!!!

I will explain my credential of VMSP.  V-ibrational M-edical S-cience Practitioner(ENERGY worker)  I work with the energy that powers not just our bodies and life, but the energy from the sun and the energy in nature.  That is why my new flow of energy is to inform everyone that we are no longer a VICTIM to the old paradigm of Newtonian science which states its intent to find out how nature works to control and manipulate nature.  The new science is saying we are part of nature and it is our responsibility to work with in nature with nature.

WOW, eh?!

Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath

________________________________

From: MM <medmidas  gmail.com>

To: candidiasis  yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thu, November 12, 2009 8:14:50 AM

Subject:Re: [candidiasis] Lactose intolerance http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactose_intolerance

Lactase is an enzyme produced by a gland inside our body,

& is supposed to remain active till the age of 3,

beyond which it usually becomes inefficient or inactive.

Few infants, babies are  born with less  efficient gland &

get symptoms of *Lactose intolerance.

“*The enzymes are actually created in our body by the microorganisms”

need correction.

My post does not cover allergy to milk, which is different from intolerance.

For info on *Lactose intolerance, see link,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactose_intolerance

*

*Lactose intolerance* is the inability to metabolize

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metabolism> lactose

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactose>, a sugar found in milk

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milk> and other dairy

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dairy> products, because the required

enzyme lactase <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactase> is absent in the

intestinal system or its availability is lowered. It is estimated that

75% of adults worldwide show some decrease in lactase activity during

adulthood.^[1]

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactose_intolerance#cite_note-0> The

frequency of decreased lactase activity ranges from as little as 5% in

northern Europe, up to 71% for Southern Europe, to more than 90% in some

African and Asian countries.^[2]

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactose_intolerance#cite_note-autogenerated3-1>

Wil Spencer wrote:

> Are you taking any probiotics?

> It is the microorganisms in the gut that do the life transfer from our food to us not enzymes.  The enzymes break open the cellular wall to allow the release of the amino acids and make availalble to the microorganisms.

>

> The enzymes are actually created in our body by the microorganisms

> from the amino acids and minerals from our food. This is why the

> probiotics are so important!!

> Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: guitarnola <guitarnola  yahoo.com>

> To: candidiasis  yahoogroups.com

> Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 9:01:24 PM

> Subject: [candidiasis] Fat and candida

>

>

> I have severe fat malabsorption and wonder if this is a part of why I am not feeling better following a high fat/low carb diet.  I stay away from sugar completely and have felt no improvement after 5 months.  I just started a pancreatic enzyme for fat malabsorption and seems to be helping based on what is coming out of me.  Should I switch to a low fat diet?

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

>

>

> ————————————

>

> Candidiasis stories:

> http://CureZone.com/forums/f.asp?f=41

> http://CureZone.com/dis/

> http://CureZone.com/diseases/parasites/

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2c. Re: Lactose intolerance http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactose_intoler

Posted by: “DuncanC” duncancrow  shaw.ca duncancrow

Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:43 pm ((PST))

Probiotics and Prebiotics in the Elderly points out prebiotic inulin has been used to reduce lactose intolerance. Link:

http://www.hubmed.org/display.cgi?uids=15299153

Duncan

— In candidiasis  yahoogroups.com, MM <medmidas  …> wrote:

>

>

> Lactase is an enzyme produced by a gland inside our body,

> & is supposed to remain active till the age of 3,

> beyond which it usually becomes inefficient or inactive.

> Few infants, babies are  born with less  efficient gland &

> get symptoms of *Lactose intolerance.

>

> “*The enzymes are actually created in our body by the microorganisms”

> need correction.

>

> My post does not cover allergy to milk, which is different from intolerance.

>

> For info on *Lactose intolerance, see link,

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactose_intolerance

> *

>

> *Lactose intolerance* is the inability to metabolize

> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metabolism> lactose

> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactose>, a sugar found in milk

> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milk> and other dairy

> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dairy> products, because the required

> enzyme lactase <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactase> is absent in the

> intestinal system or its availability is lowered. It is estimated that

> 75% of adults worldwide show some decrease in lactase activity during

> adulthood.^[1]

> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactose_intolerance#cite_note-0> The

> frequency of decreased lactase activity ranges from as little as 5% in

> northern Europe, up to 71% for Southern Europe, to more than 90% in some

> African and Asian countries.^[2]

> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactose_intolerance#cite_note-autogenerated3-1>

>

>

>

>

> Wil Spencer wrote:

> > Are you taking any probiotics?

> > It is the microorganisms in the gut that do the life transfer from our food to us not enzymes.  The enzymes break open the cellular wall to allow the release of the amino acids and make availalble to the microorganisms.

> >

> > The enzymes are actually created in our body by the microorganisms

> > from the amino acids and minerals from our food. This is why the

> > probiotics are so important!!

> > Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: guitarnola <guitarnola  …>

> > To: candidiasis  yahoogroups.com

> > Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 9:01:24 PM

> > Subject: [candidiasis] Fat and candida

> >

> >

> > I have severe fat malabsorption and wonder if this is a part of why I am not feeling better following a high fat/low carb diet.  I stay away from sugar completely and have felt no improvement after 5 months.  I just started a pancreatic enzyme for fat malabsorption and seems to be helping based on what is coming out of me.  Should I switch to a low fat diet?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> >

> >

> >

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> > http://CureZone.com/diseases/parasites/

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2d. Re: Lactose intolerance, keep exploiting gullibles.

Posted by: “MM” medmidas  gmail.com gesigars

Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:39 pm ((PST))

Science of advanced marketeering exploit gullibles.

__________________________________________

Wil Spencer wrote:

> I think you need to do some educating of things.  Candice Perth PhD in her lecture, Your Body is Your Subconscious Mind, has stated my original comment.  You can find more info by reading the new science of Quantum Physics.  The other authors include Dawson Church PhD, Bruce Lipton PhD, and several more.

>

> As Bruce Lipton PhD has stated in his talk titled “The New Biology-Where Mind and Matter Meet”  he states it takes at least 10-15 years for the new science to be in the educational system and out to the world.  This new science is really shaking the old paradigm of just symptom relief and fear.  We are witnessing it even right here in this group!  So you all are getting the new science 10 years before even the University Professors in the text books.  How exciting is this!!!!!!!!

>

> I will explain my credential of VMSP.  V-ibrational M-edical S-cience Practitioner(ENERGY worker)  I work with the energy that powers not just our bodies and life, but the energy from the sun and the energy in nature.  That is why my new flow of energy is to inform everyone that we are no longer a VICTIM to the old paradigm of Newtonian science which states its intent to find out how nature works to control and manipulate nature.  The new science is saying we are part of nature and it is our responsibility to work with in nature with nature.

>

> WOW, eh?!

>

> Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: MM <medmidas  gmail.com>

> To: candidiasis  yahoogroups.com

> Sent: Thu, November 12, 2009 8:14:50 AM

> Subject:Re: [candidiasis] Lactose intolerance http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactose_intolerance

>

>

> Lactase is an enzyme produced by a gland inside our body,

> & is supposed to remain active till the age of 3,

> beyond which it usually becomes inefficient or inactive.

> Few infants, babies are  born with less  efficient gland &

> get symptoms of *Lactose intolerance.

>

> “*The enzymes are actually created in our body by the microorganisms”

> need correction.

>

> My post does not cover allergy to milk, which is different from intolerance.

>

> For info on *Lactose intolerance, see link,

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactose_intolerance

> *

>

>

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2e. Re: Lactose intolerance http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactose_intoler

Posted by: “MM” medmidas  gmail.com gesigars

Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:50 pm ((PST))

As per Ayrvedic classification, there are 3 maladies.

Gas

Bile

Phlegm

Using guesswork, approx. one third people can’t handle gas.

People under maladies of bile & phlegm may be able to handle gas.

Our marketeers need to have a heart & not force inulin / whey

to those suffering from gas malady.

____________________________________________________________

DuncanC wrote:

> Probiotics and Prebiotics in the Elderly points out prebiotic inulin has been used to reduce lactose intolerance. Link:

>

> http://www.hubmed.org/display.cgi?uids=15299153

>

> Duncan

>

> — In candidiasis  yahoogroups.com, MM <medmidas  …> wrote:

>

>> Lactase is an enzyme produced by a gland inside our body,

>> & is supposed to remain active till the age of 3,

>> beyond which it usually becomes inefficient or inactive.

>> Few infants, babies are  born with less  efficient gland &

>> get symptoms of *Lactose intolerance.

>>

>> “*The enzymes are actually created in our body by the microorganisms”

>> need correction.

>>

>> My post does not cover allergy to milk, which is different from intolerance.

>>

>> For info on *Lactose intolerance, see link,

>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactose_intolerance

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3a. Re: 100% cured – Jaye

Posted by: “algaelady1″ carol  minnick.us algaelady1

Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:06 am ((PST))

Jaye, yes – no meat – too acidic.  This is what I eat:

Breakfast

Oatmeal “mush” (half oatmeal and half sesame seeds, oat groats and raisins)

Lunch

Usually a smoothie (made in a VitaMix to keep all the fiber), which includes fruits and/or veggies – banana, blueberries, grapes, strawberries, cranberries, raspberries, pear, apple, kiwi, kale, collards, cucumber, spinach

(not all in the same smoothie, I change it around)

Or a whole food meal replacement bar (if I’m away from my VitaMix) and apple

Supper

Always a large green salad  romaine, spinach, red peppers, onions, carrots, tomatoes, celery, frozen peas.

Plus other stuff, including:

Beans, rice, other veggie either steamed or raw.

Veggie burger.

Soup.

Stir fry.

Veggie stew.

Pasta/veggies.

Etc.  Huge variety of veggie dishes.

All organic if I can get them.  I also take whole food supplements.  This protocol has done wonders for me – eliminated my sinus problem, improved my mental alertness, have denser bones, my “insides” work better.

Carol

— In candidiasis  yahoogroups.com, “blymielymie” <blymielymie  …> wrote:

> Carol,

> Did I read right…you eliminated meat?

> Please tell me more specific what you eat.

> Thank you

> jaye

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3b. Re: 100% cured – Jaye

Posted by: “Wil Spencer” wilspencer  rocketmail.com wilspencer  rocketmail.com

Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:35 am ((PST))

I beg to differ!!!!!

Your diet of very high insoluble fiber is the cause of the acid.  In your stomach you need to produce soooo much acid to break open the cellular wall of the fiber and then the very HIGH amounts of insulin to counter act all the starch/carb to make glucose it is insane!

In the book “Fiber Menace”  he lays it out painstakingly well.  He has a web site called Gut Sence or just fibermenace.com.

You are in the delusion of the old science paradigm.

From what you are saying below you are consuming virtually no availible amino acids and minerals and intern feeding the candida fungus very well and basically causing your body to go into a fasting state!

Just ask NieeMa for my book and you can read what the new science is saying.

Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath

________________________________

From: algaelady1 <carol  minnick.us>

To: candidiasis  yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thu, November 12, 2009 10:06:32 AM

Subject: [candidiasis] Re: 100% cured – Jaye

Jaye, yes – no meat – too acidic.  This is what I eat:

Breakfast –

Oatmeal “mush” (half oatmeal and half sesame seeds, oat groats and raisins)

Lunch –

Usually a smoothie (made in a VitaMix to keep all the fiber), which includes fruits and/or veggies – banana, blueberries, grapes, strawberries, cranberries, raspberries, pear, apple, kiwi, kale, collards, cucumber, spinach

(not all in the same smoothie, I change it around)

Or a whole food meal replacement bar (if I’m away from my VitaMix) and apple

Supper –

Always a large green salad – romaine, spinach, red peppers, onions, carrots, tomatoes, celery, frozen peas.

Plus other stuff, including:

Beans, rice, other veggie either steamed or raw.

Veggie burger.

Soup.

Stir fry.

Veggie stew.

Pasta/veggies.

Etc. – Huge variety of veggie dishes.

All organic if I can get them.  I also take whole food supplements.  This protocol has done wonders for me – eliminated my sinus problem, improved my mental alertness, have denser bones, my “insides” work better.

Carol

— In candidiasis   yahoogroups. com, “blymielymie” <blymielymie   …> wrote:

> Carol,

> Did I read right…you eliminated meat?

> Please tell me more specific what you eat.

> Thank you

> jaye

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3c. Re: 100% cured – Jaye

Posted by: “beth” bethafish  comcast.net bethafish1

Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:39 am ((PST))

Where are you located, Wil?

—– Original Message —–

From: Wil Spencer

To: candidiasis  yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 9:35 AM

Subject: Re: [candidiasis] Re: 100% cured – Jaye

I beg to differ!!!!!

Your diet of very high insoluble fiber is the cause of the acid. In your stomach you need to produce soooo much acid to break open the cellular wall of the fiber and then the very HIGH amounts of insulin to counter act all the starch/carb to make glucose it is insane!

In the book “Fiber Menace” he lays it out painstakingly well. He has a web site called Gut Sence or just fibermenace.com.

You are in the delusion of the old science paradigm.

From what you are saying below you are consuming virtually no availible amino acids and minerals and intern feeding the candida fungus very well and basically causing your body to go into a fasting state!

Just ask NieeMa for my book and you can read what the new science is saying.

Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath

________________________________

From: algaelady1 <carol  minnick.us>

To: candidiasis  yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thu, November 12, 2009 10:06:32 AM

Subject: [candidiasis] Re: 100% cured – Jaye

Jaye, yes – no meat – too acidic. This is what I eat:

Breakfast –

Oatmeal “mush” (half oatmeal and half sesame seeds, oat groats and raisins)

Lunch –

Usually a smoothie (made in a VitaMix to keep all the fiber), which includes fruits and/or veggies – banana, blueberries, grapes, strawberries, cranberries, raspberries, pear, apple, kiwi, kale, collards, cucumber, spinach

(not all in the same smoothie, I change it around)

Or a whole food meal replacement bar (if I’m away from my VitaMix) and apple

Supper –

Always a large green salad – romaine, spinach, red peppers, onions, carrots, tomatoes, celery, frozen peas.

Plus other stuff, including:

Beans, rice, other veggie either steamed or raw.

Veggie burger.

Soup.

Stir fry.

Veggie stew.

Pasta/veggies.

Etc. – Huge variety of veggie dishes.

All organic if I can get them. I also take whole food supplements. This protocol has done wonders for me – eliminated my sinus problem, improved my mental alertness, have denser bones, my “insides” work better.

Carol

— In candidiasis   yahoogroups. com, “blymielymie” <blymielymie   …> wrote:

> Carol,

> Did I read right…you eliminated meat?

> Please tell me more specific what you eat.

> Thank you

> jaye

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3d. Re: 100% cured – Jaye

Posted by: “Wil Spencer” wilspencer  rocketmail.com wilspencer  rocketmail.com

Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:30 am ((PST))

I have a clinic in eastern PA.  I also travel North America.  I can use the telephone to get most things done as long as I have honest data.

Wil

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From: beth <bethafish  comcast.net>

To: candidiasis  yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thu, November 12, 2009 10:38:57 AM

Subject: Re: [candidiasis] Re: 100% cured – Jaye

Where are you located, Wil?

—– Original Message —–

From: Wil Spencer

To: candidiasis   yahoogroups. com

Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 9:35 AM

Subject: Re: [candidiasis] Re: 100% cured – Jaye

I beg to differ!!!!!

Your diet of very high insoluble fiber is the cause of the acid. In your stomach you need to produce soooo much acid to break open the cellular wall of the fiber and then the very HIGH amounts of insulin to counter act all the starch/carb to make glucose it is insane!

In the book “Fiber Menace” he lays it out painstakingly well. He has a web site called Gut Sence or just fibermenace. com.

You are in the delusion of the old science paradigm.

From what you are saying below you are consuming virtually no availible amino acids and minerals and intern feeding the candida fungus very well and basically causing your body to go into a fasting state!

Just ask NieeMa for my book and you can read what the new science is saying.

Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath

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From: algaelady1 <carol  minnick. us>

To: candidiasis   yahoogroups. com

Sent: Thu, November 12, 2009 10:06:32 AM

Subject: [candidiasis] Re: 100% cured – Jaye

Jaye, yes – no meat – too acidic. This is what I eat:

Breakfast –

Oatmeal “mush” (half oatmeal and half sesame seeds, oat groats and raisins)

Lunch –

Usually a smoothie (made in a VitaMix to keep all the fiber), which includes fruits and/or veggies – banana, blueberries, grapes, strawberries, cranberries, raspberries, pear, apple, kiwi, kale, collards, cucumber, spinach

(not all in the same smoothie, I change it around)

Or a whole food meal replacement bar (if I’m away from my VitaMix) and apple

Supper –

Always a large green salad – romaine, spinach, red peppers, onions, carrots, tomatoes, celery, frozen peas.

Plus other stuff, including:

Beans, rice, other veggie either steamed or raw.

Veggie burger.

Soup.

Stir fry.

Veggie stew.

Pasta/veggies.

Etc. – Huge variety of veggie dishes.

All organic if I can get them. I also take whole food supplements. This protocol has done wonders for me – eliminated my sinus problem, improved my mental alertness, have denser bones, my “insides” work better.

Carol

— In candidiasis   yahoogroups. com, “blymielymie” <blymielymie   …> wrote:

> Carol,

> Did I read right…you eliminated meat?

> Please tell me more specific what you eat.

> Thank you

> jaye

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3e. Re: 100% cured – Jaye

Posted by: “Wil Spencer” wilspencer  rocketmail.com wilspencer  rocketmail.com

Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:44 am ((PST))

I also have a seminar schedule.  This is why I travel.  I have made my clinic somewhat virtual and can meet with small groups anywhere.  All I need is 15 people in an area to schedule a seminar. If you are interested you can go to my web site www.mbsre-set.com to see more and register for a seminar, there is a prepay button on the solution tab towards the bottom.  Or just sponsor a seminar to guarranty the space.

Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath

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From: Wil Spencer <wilspencer  rocketmail.com>

To: candidiasis  yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thu, November 12, 2009 11:29:57 AM

Subject: Re: [candidiasis] Re: 100% cured – Jaye

I have a clinic in eastern PA.  I also travel North America.  I can use the telephone to get most things done as long as I have honest data.

Wil

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From: beth <bethafish  comcast. net>

To: candidiasis   yahoogroups. com

Sent: Thu, November 12, 2009 10:38:57 AM

Subject: Re: [candidiasis] Re: 100% cured – Jaye

Where are you located, Wil?

—– Original Message —–

From: Wil Spencer

To: candidiasis   yahoogroups. com

Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 9:35 AM

Subject: Re: [candidiasis] Re: 100% cured – Jaye

I beg to differ!!!!!

Your diet of very high insoluble fiber is the cause of the acid. In your stomach you need to produce soooo much acid to break open the cellular wall of the fiber and then the very HIGH amounts of insulin to counter act all the starch/carb to make glucose it is insane!

In the book “Fiber Menace” he lays it out painstakingly well. He has a web site called Gut Sence or just fibermenace. com.

You are in the delusion of the old science paradigm.

From what you are saying below you are consuming virtually no availible amino acids and minerals and intern feeding the candida fungus very well and basically causing your body to go into a fasting state!

Just ask NieeMa for my book and you can read what the new science is saying.

Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath

____________ _________ _________ __

From: algaelady1 <carol  minnick. us>

To: candidiasis   yahoogroups. com

Sent: Thu, November 12, 2009 10:06:32 AM

Subject: [candidiasis] Re: 100% cured – Jaye

Jaye, yes – no meat – too acidic. This is what I eat:

Breakfast –

Oatmeal “mush” (half oatmeal and half sesame seeds, oat groats and raisins)

Lunch –

Usually a smoothie (made in a VitaMix to keep all the fiber), which includes fruits and/or veggies – banana, blueberries, grapes, strawberries, cranberries, raspberries, pear, apple, kiwi, kale, collards, cucumber, spinach

(not all in the same smoothie, I change it around)

Or a whole food meal replacement bar (if I’m away from my VitaMix) and apple

Supper –

Always a large green salad – romaine, spinach, red peppers, onions, carrots, tomatoes, celery, frozen peas.

Plus other stuff, including:

Beans, rice, other veggie either steamed or raw.

Veggie burger.

Soup.

Stir fry.

Veggie stew.

Pasta/veggies.

Etc. – Huge variety of veggie dishes.

All organic if I can get them. I also take whole food supplements. This protocol has done wonders for me – eliminated my sinus problem, improved my mental alertness, have denser bones, my “insides” work better.

Carol

— In candidiasis   yahoogroups. com, “blymielymie” <blymielymie   …> wrote:

> Carol,

> Did I read right…you eliminated meat?

> Please tell me more specific what you eat.

> Thank you

> jaye

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3f. Re: 100% cured – Jaye

Posted by: “DuncanC” duncancrow  shaw.ca duncancrow

Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:04 pm ((PST))

I can’t believe that the sitr Wil sent us to says, “Normal stools shouldn’t contain any remnants of undigested food. Dietary proteins, fats, carbohydrates, and even fiber must digest completely”.

…that people who fast for weeks still have solid stools!

…there’s zero fiber in mother’s milk!

…people on the Atkins diet get very little or no fiber.

MY Atkins book says otherwise and there’s a whole page of similar GIGO RED FLAGS that just aren’t supported by data.

I think I smell an agenda site at http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:ytOQUOhJp3IJ:www.fibermenace.com/gutsense/flora.html+fibermenace+laughingstock&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk

I think we should unravel more of the myths propagated there for laughingstock and edification.

Duncan

— In candidiasis  yahoogroups.com, Wil Spencer <wilspencer  …> wrote:

>

> I beg to differ!!!!!

> Your diet of very high insoluble fiber is the cause of the acid.  In your stomach you need to produce soooo much acid to break open the cellular wall of the fiber and then the very HIGH amounts of insulin to counter act all the starch/carb to make glucose it is insane!

> In the book “Fiber Menace”  he lays it out painstakingly well.  He has a web site called Gut Sence or just fibermenace.com.

> You are in the delusion of the old science paradigm.

> From what you are saying below you are consuming virtually no availible amino acids and minerals and intern feeding the candida fungus very well and basically causing your body to go into a fasting state!

> Just ask NieeMa for my book and you can read what the new science is saying.

>

> Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: algaelady1 <carol  …>

> To: candidiasis  yahoogroups.com

> Sent: Thu, November 12, 2009 10:06:32 AM

> Subject: [candidiasis] Re: 100% cured – Jaye

>

>

> Jaye, yes – no meat – too acidic.  This is what I eat:

>

> Breakfast â”

> Oatmeal “mush” (half oatmeal and half sesame seeds, oat groats and raisins)

>

> Lunch â”

> Usually a smoothie (made in a VitaMix to keep all the fiber), which includes fruits and/or veggies – banana, blueberries, grapes, strawberries, cranberries, raspberries, pear, apple, kiwi, kale, collards, cucumber, spinach

> (not all in the same smoothie, I change it around)

>

> Or a whole food meal replacement bar (if I’m away from my VitaMix) and apple

>

> Supper â”

> Always a large green salad â” romaine, spinach, red peppers, onions, carrots, tomatoes, celery, frozen peas.

> Plus other stuff, including:

> Beans, rice, other veggie either steamed or raw.

> Veggie burger.

> Soup.

> Stir fry.

> Veggie stew.

> Pasta/veggies.

> Etc. â” Huge variety of veggie dishes.

>

> All organic if I can get them.  I also take whole food supplements.  This protocol has done wonders for me – eliminated my sinus problem, improved my mental alertness, have denser bones, my “insides” work better.

>

> Carol

>

> — In candidiasis   yahoogroups. com, “blymielymie” <blymielymie   …> wrote:

> > Carol,

> > Did I read right…you eliminated meat?

> > Please tell me more specific what you eat.

> > Thank you

> > jaye

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

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4. Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS

Posted by: “IMS” imsinfo  yahoo.com imsinfo

Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:49 am ((PST))

Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS), or as it is more recently called, Chronic Fatigue and Immune Dysfunction Syndrome (CFIDS), has only been recognized by the CDC since 1988. Fortunately, most doctors have now abandoned their view that CFS is just something “in your head,” and no longer view it as a psychological disorder.

The CFIDS Association estimates that some 800,000 Americans suffer from this debilitating condition, with a mere 16 percent having been diagnosed.

The characteristics of CFS include:

Extreme fatigue and weakness

Muscle and joint aches and pains

Chronic headaches

Sore throat, swollen glands, and periodic fevers and chills

Numbness and tingling of the extremities

Cognitive dysfunction

Insomnia

The Search Goes on for the “Cause” of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome

Despite many researchers making claims they’ve found the cause of CFIDS, there is no agreement about what it is. Much of the research that has emerged over the past ten to twenty years points toward an infectious agent, particularly various viruses. But as to which one, it’s anybody’s guessand it could be that multiple microorganisms are responsible.

But is a virus causing chronic fatigue syndrome, or is chronic fatigue syndrome itself making people more susceptible to infections?

Over the years, several infectious organisms have been blamed:

In the early 1980s, Dr. William Crook, author of the classic book The Yeast Connection, theorized that CFIDS was a result of yeast overgrowth (Candida) in the body. Interestingly, many may not realize that Dr. Crook was actually my initial inspiration to enter natural medicine.

Mycoplasma bacteria have been found in a significant percentage of CFIDS patients, as well as those with fibromyalgia, AIDS, cancer, MS, CJD and other neurosystemic diseases, causing some researchers (including Garth Nicolson) to believe this is the culprit. Mycoplasma has also been an important part of my early protocol of the treatment of rheumatoid arthritis.

Another group of researchers found that more than 80 percent of CFIDS patients tested positive for enteroviral particles from a common stomach virus that had spread from their gut to their central nervous system, heart and muscles–another explanation for CFIDS.

Other viruses have been blamed including Epstein Barr, cytomegalovirus, herpes, and parvovirus, which have all been found to produce symptoms very similar to those experienced by CFIDS sufferers.

Ross River virus and Coxiella burnetti virus are currently being studied as possible causative agents.

Infectious agents aren’t the only theory out there about the cause of this perplexing disease.

Some scientists believe CFIDS results from an abnormality of blood perfusion of the brain. And some camps profess that CFIDS arises from a toxic environmental exposure of some kind. Still others believe CFIDS is a dysfunctional emotional reaction to stress and/or trauma.

All of the above theories have been sent to the presses as “significant breakthroughs” in the cause of this frustrating syndrome–yet so far, no one theory has survived the test of time and been proven to be THE cause.

Now that we’re into the third decade of investigation, advanced tools from human genome research and high-tech imaging studies have caused CFIDS investigators to circle back and look at the relationship of all these potential factors, from immune dysfunction and infectious disease to emotions, as well as risk factors and precipitating triggers.

But the cause and cure remain elusive.

Now there is new evidence that a human gammaretrovirus “XMRV” is present in a significant number of CFIDS sufferersand these researchers have concluded this little-known virus may be causative.

And the Winner Is

It seems to me that the common denominator in all of this, which isn’t normally mentioned, is actually the key: the failure of the immune system to function properly.

With a healthy immune system, you are less likely to be a host for microscopic invaders, regardless of which ones are lurking about. I have always believed the answer lies in strengthening the body, rather than hoping for some new pill or other pharmaceutical invention to rescue you.

A number of studies have supported the view that CFIDS is related to unresolved emotional responses, especially those in early childhood. Traumatic events, stress and negative emotions not only contribute to the development of CFIDS but they can affect your overall physical health. Your emotional health may make the difference between recovering and spending many years being miserable.

Please realize that this is not the same as saying your disease is “all in your head.” It is simply acknowledging the connection between mind and body, and recognizing the need to address healing on both levels.

The best way to recover your health is with wise lifestyle changes and energy work. Taking this approach will automatically improve all measures of your immune system and allow you to resolve any infection that might be contributing to your illness.

Easing Chronic Fatigue Symptoms the Natural Way

My natural treatment program for CFIDS is a five-pronged approach:

1. Bio Energetic Normalization

Emotionally traumatic events can leave “energy blockages” for many years, which then interfere with your overall health, including immune function. Bioenergetic normalization of previous emotional traumas is the single most effective treatment I know of for CFIDS at this time.

There are many different techniques that can be used here, but the Meridian Tapping Technique (MTT) is my favorite. MTT is a procedure that borrows from the much-heralded discoveries of Albert Einstein (everything, including your body, is composed of energy) and from the ancient wisdom of Chinese acupuncture.

In essence, MTT is an emotional version of acupuncture without the need for needles. Instead, certain release points on the body are stimulated by tapping them with your fingertips. Furthermore, the basics of MTT can be learned by anyone and can be self-applied (usually in minutes).

2. Dietary Changes

Beware of anyone recommending a specific “chronic fatigue diet.” One person’s food may be another person’s poison. Instead, look into nutritional typing.

We all process different types of food differently. Just as everyone is different in outward appearance, every person has a unique biochemistry and genetic profile with respect to nutritional needs.

When you adopt a diet based on your “nutritional type,” it is very likely you will resolve most of your health problems over time, including CFIDS, because your body will be have the resources it needs to heal itself. Avoiding sugar, processed food and chemicals is an important part of this dietary change since those things can damage to your immune system and prevent you from recovering.

3. Exercise

People suffering from either the fatigue of CFIDS or the pain if Fibromyalgia (a closely related cousin to CFIDS) tend to shy away from exercise, and understandably so. However, research shows that a combination of aerobic activity and strength training can improve pain and fatigue symptoms. Gentle exercise such as yoga can be an excellent part of your exercise program–and yoga benefits the mind as well as the body.

Many people with CFIDS battle weight issues, and regular exercise can help with this by boosting your metabolism and normalizing your blood sugar.

4. Avoid Toxic Substances

Avoiding processed foods and artificial sweeteners is a good start. But beware of chemicals in your environment, also…air, water, and products that contact your skin.

Many cleaning products and personal care productslike soaps, shampoos, and creamsare laden with toxic chemicals that further compromise your ability to heal. Also avoid fluoride in your drinking water AND bathing water by installing good quality filters for both.

5. Sleep

Good, restorative sleep is critical when you have a chronic illness. It isn’t just the amount of sleep but also sleep quality that is important for healing. Your body cannot restore itself unless you are getting into deep, restorative sleep each night.

As tempting as it is to wait for science to find a miracle cure, the time to turn around your health is NOW.

There is no magic bullet, so there is no point in waiting around for one before taking action. You can make a huge difference in how you feel by using the natural approach, and it will be effective no matter what the causative factors are.

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5a. Re: Candida diet = wasting away…

Posted by: “DuncanC” duncancrow  shaw.ca duncancrow

Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:53 pm ((PST))

Paul, an undenatured whey isolate is listed in the Physicians Desktop Reference for Precription Drugs as a specific anti-wasting tool, useful even against cachexia (medical term for wasting) in cancer and AIDS. We use a similar product in the anti-candida diet but we only use about half as much as we would for body building. You ccould step up your dose to what a body builder or cachexia patient would use.

all good,

Duncan

— In candidiasis  yahoogroups.com, Paspenc5  … wrote:

>

> It seems most people here agree that strict adherence to the candida diet

> is necessary for healing.

>

> But has anyone here noticed excessive and unreasonable weight loss while on

> the diet?

>

> When I completely remove carbs from my diet, I lose more than a pound a

> day.  The longest I’ve gone without carbs is 3 weeks — and I lost 22 pounds

> while doing it!  I am a very lean man to begin with (normally 145 lbs., and

> 5′8″), and after 3 weeks of no carbs, I looked like someone with a terminal

> disease — the complete opposite of “healthy”.  As a result, I had to

> incorporate some carbs back into my diet.

>

> Am I the only one who experiences this?  Any feedback would be appreciated.

>

>

> Thanks,

> Paul

>

>

>

>

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>

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5b. Re: Candida diet = wasting away…

Posted by: “toddroberts2001  aol.com” toddroberts2001  aol.com roberts50000

Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:24 pm ((PST))

In a message dated 11/11/2009 7:17:18 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

Paspenc5  cs.com writes:

It seems most people here agree that strict adherence to the candida diet

is necessary for healing.

But has anyone here noticed excessive and  unreasonable weight loss while

on

the diet?

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Since July I have been on a strict low-sugar diet and notice that is

the only way I can lose weight. Since July I have lost about 25 lbs

and feel better and better each day. I do add Virgin Olive Oil to my

vegetables and that gives me plenty of good energy throughout the

day. Sometimes I will add Coconut oil to my cooked veggies.

I have cut back on most grains but do eat vegetables every

day plus home-made plain yogurt and lots of fermented Sauerkraut.  This

has greatly helped my Candida problem. I would guess I might be

about 85% cured of Candida nowadays.

I feel I am close to my normal weight now – 160 lbs.    5′8″.  I  probably

should be closer to 150lbs but I am getting there. If I ever want to  gain

weight I know how to do it – just eat more sugar and drink sugary drinks

and eat junk foods and lots of grains – it packs on the pounds. If I do

that though I know the

Candida will explode in my system again and I have no desire for that, plus

the low energy levels and brain fog that goes along with it. Read the book

Sugar Blues by William Dufty. It has been a real inspiration to me over the

years.

Todd R

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6a. Fiber 3rd most abundant component in human milk

Posted by: “DuncanC” duncancrow  shaw.ca duncancrow

Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:06 pm ((PST))

Hum,an Milk oligosaccharides (HMO are prebiotic fiber) are the third most abundant component of human milk (9), and at least 130 different masses have been identified (14).

http://aem.asm.org/cgi/reprint/72/6/4497.pdf

Mama’s body ain’t wrong; death to the agendsa site fibermenace dotcom!

all good,

Duncan

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6b. Re: Fiber 3rd most abundant component in human milk

Posted by: “Wil Spencer” wilspencer  rocketmail.com wilspencer  rocketmail.com

Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:37 pm ((PST))

I love you Duncan! You are so funny!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oligosaccharides  ”this is saying sugar not fiber”

If you have not been aware of the word “prebiotic” is a new term for the sale of industrial products that they use to pay to get rid of.

This is the old paradigm that is having trouble excepting the new science that is coming.

Wil a realist

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From: DuncanC <duncancrow  shaw.ca>

To: candidiasis  yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thu, November 12, 2009 6:06:26 PM

Subject: [candidiasis] Fiber 3rd most abundant component in human milk

Hum,an Milk oligosaccharides (HMO are prebiotic fiber) are the third most abundant component of human milk (9), and at least 130 different masses have been identified (14).

http://aem.asm. org/cgi/reprint/ 72/6/4497. pdf

Mama’s body ain’t wrong; death to the agendsa site fibermenace dotcom!

all good,

Duncan

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6c. Re: Fiber 3rd most abundant component in human milk

Posted by: “DuncanC” duncancrow  shaw.ca duncancrow

Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:10 pm ((PST))

Wil, just to let you know, oligosaccharides in mother’s milk are in fact indigestible soluble fiber. Yes, they’re made of sugar molecules strung end-to-end but they are not sugar. Bacteria must present a specific enzyme to break them down. Probiotics produce this enzyme; pathogens generally do not (guess you missed this in university, eh?).

Duncan

— In candidiasis  yahoogroups.com, Wil Spencer <wilspencer  …> wrote:

>

> I love you Duncan! You are so funny!

>

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oligosaccharides  ”this is saying sugar not fiber”

>

> If you have not been aware of the word “prebiotic” is a new term for the sale of industrial products that they use to pay to get rid of.

>

> This is the old paradigm that is having trouble excepting the new science that is coming.

>

> Wil a realist

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: DuncanC <duncancrow  …>

> To: candidiasis  yahoogroups.com

> Sent: Thu, November 12, 2009 6:06:26 PM

> Subject: [candidiasis] Fiber 3rd most abundant component in human milk

>

>

> Hum,an Milk oligosaccharides (HMO are prebiotic fiber) are the third most abundant component of human milk (9), and at least 130 different masses have been identified (14).

>

> http://aem.asm. org/cgi/reprint/ 72/6/4497. pdf

>

> Mama’s body ain’t wrong; death to the agendsa site fibermenace dotcom!

>

> all good,

>

> Duncan

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

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7. d-mannose

Posted by: “Janet Groneman” jangro1  yahoo.com jangro1

Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:24 pm ((PST))

Duncan, never mind answering my email about getting the d-mannose.  After I thought about it, I remember taking it several years ago, and it didn’t work for me at that time.  Thanks anyway.  Janet

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8a. Candida diet = wasting away…Duncan

Posted by: “Paspenc5  cs.com” Paspenc5  cs.com lemonade19882000

Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:24 pm ((PST))

Duncan,

I’m allergic to dairy — can I still use undenatured whey isolate?

(Another reason the candida diet is hard for me is that I’m very allergic.

For example, I’m allergic to eggs — and they are a staple of the candida

diet).

Thanks,

Paul

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8b. Re: Candida diet = wasting away…Duncan

Posted by: “sol” solbun  sweetwaterhsa.com cat_thump

Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:48 pm ((PST))

Paspenc5  cs.com wrote:

> (Another reason the candida diet is hard for me is that I’m very

> allergic. For example, I’m allergic to eggs — and they are a staple

> of the candida diet).

My sympathies. I’m in a similar position. I have few really safe protein

choices. Lucky for me I can eat some eggs if I don’t overdo them. But I

can’t tolerate enough of them to make them a significant protein source.

I have things I can eat if I dose up on antihistamines beforehand, but

that is not a viable everyday option, obviously.

sol

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8c. Re: Candida diet = wasting away…Duncan

Posted by: “DuncanC” duncancrow  shaw.ca duncancrow

Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:04 pm ((PST))

Paul, the physicians desk reference for prescription drugs says one whey isolate is well tolerated by severely milk-sensitive individuals. I think whether the allergic might still react depends on whether the reactive component has been removed or not. Many isolates may qualify for you.

all good,

DUncan

— In candidiasis  yahoogroups.com, Paspenc5  … wrote:

>

> Duncan,

>

> I’m allergic to dairy — can I still use undenatured whey isolate?

>

> (Another reason the candida diet is hard for me is that I’m very allergic.

> For example, I’m allergic to eggs — and they are a staple of the candida

> diet).

>

> Thanks,

> Paul

>

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Topics in this digest:

1a. Re: I need advice with DMSO and Miconazole-Duncan or anyone

From: Wil Spencer

2a. Re: DIM

From: Wil Spencer

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1a. Re: I need advice with DMSO and Miconazole-Duncan or anyone

Posted by: “Wil Spencer” wilspencer  rocketmail.com wilspencer  rocketmail.com

Date: Tue Nov 3, 2009 5:49 am ((PST))

You see Duncan, candida, in a healthy person normally lives in a small section of our intestines along with Salminella, E.Coli, staph, strep and 700 other microorganism.  This is our immunity and digestibility.  Candida is also in the air and the soil.  ”To cure candida” is just a statement of the unimformed,  You can not cure candida!  You can stop an overgrowth and put candida into its natural parameter, but the natural parameters are kept by the bacillus Laterosporus BOD in our gut.

My diet consist of fruit in the morning, usally a banana and some times a little bit of yoghurt, some cheese and another fruit in the mid day, and in the evening I have some kind of fatty red meat or fish fried in butter or lard with a mushroom onion and cream sause that I am addicted to.  I eat amino acids and minerals, light and information according to Quantum Physics!

For supplements I take the things I use in my clinic with my clients.  There is a verse that I took literally from the apocrypha many years ago, “Physician go and heal thy self”, I was/am my first client.

Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath

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From: carmensa <can2cis-y  yahoo.com>

To: candidiasis  yahoogroups.com

Sent: Mon, November 2, 2009 1:30:38 PM

Subject: [candidiasis] Re: I need advice with DMSO and Miconazole-Duncan or anyone

Duncan,I don’t see where you get such “reading”

Candida overgrowth we get under control but some of the devastating side effects it leaves on our body may not be reversible …

Some have it more severe then others…

peace,

carmen

Re: I need advice with DMSO and Miconazole-Duncan or anyone

Posted by:      ”DuncanC” duncancrow  shaw. ca duncancrow

Sun Nov 1, 2009 5:02 pm        (PST)

Just to put a point on it, you stated you have not been able to cure your own candida, Wil. Are you still low carbing?

Duncan

— In candidiasis   yahoogroups. com, Wil Spencer <wilspencer   …> wrote:

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> It sure is a possible. I was born with a severe candida over

growth. My mother had a severe over growth to the point her breast milk

was so toxic it just about killed me the first week of my life. The

candida overgrowth was with me till I was 24 years old. I can tell I

have flareups when I am under stress and abuse my body and burn my

candle on all ends.

>

> Wil

>

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2a. Re: DIM

Posted by: “Wil Spencer” wilspencer  rocketmail.com wilspencer  rocketmail.com

Date: Tue Nov 3, 2009 8:07 am ((PST))

When one has a severe candida overgrowth the candida interferes with the hormones balances and creates a natural progestorone which causes huge problems in women.  It is really, in my experience, that the candida overgrowth is causing the hormone problems. I do address this in my book of Candida, which you can view an download from my web site www.environotics.com or www.mbsre-set.com.

In my clinical experience all your problems are related to a gut imbalance, Lisa, and an electrical system that is not in harmony.

Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath

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From: IMS <imsinfo  yahoo.com>

To: candidiasis  yahoogroups.com

Sent: Mon, November 2, 2009 1:50:53 PM

Subject: [candidiasis] DIM

I wonder if somebody tried DIM?

I was going to try but in my age 52 it is probably not a good idea bc estrogen should drop itself. My estrogen is too high according to saliva test and I belive so bc I have many related problems _ adenomyoma fibroid, otosclerosis and hot flashes. Some expert say hormone inbalace cause candida too.

Though my blood test is different and showed very high progesterone instead I am still concern about estrogen too. I have red that too much of both can cause reflux and dismotility problems.When I took progesteron I had severe burning in esophasgus but it could be estrogen influence as it is increasing too.

Lisa

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Topics in this digest:

1a. Re: I need advice with DMSO and Miconazole-Duncan or anyone

From: carmensa

2. DIM

From: IMS

3. Fw: ONIONS!! Interesting

From: carmensa

4. Need Help: gut inflammation and transfer factor?

From: emilynk.chan

5a. Re: yeast in blood?

From: Paspenc5  cs.com

6a. amalgams

From: daisytiff228  aol.com

7a. Re: HELP – how to continue with biomed?

From: emilynk.chan

8a. Re: Cocunut oil

From: can_cis

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1a. Re: I need advice with DMSO and Miconazole-Duncan or anyone

Posted by: “carmensa” can2cis-y  yahoo.com can_cis

Date: Mon Nov 2, 2009 10:31 am ((PST))

Duncan,I don’t see where you get such “reading”

Candida overgrowth we get under control but some of the devastating side effects it leaves on our body may not be reversible …

Some have it more severe then others…

peace,

carmen

Re: I need advice with DMSO and Miconazole-Duncan or anyone

Posted by:      ”DuncanC” duncancrow  shaw.ca    duncancrow

Sun Nov 1, 2009 5:02 pm        (PST)

Just to put a point on it, you stated you have not been able to cure your own candida, Wil. Are you still low carbing?

Duncan

— In candidiasis   yahoogroups. com, Wil Spencer <wilspencer   …> wrote:

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> It sure is a possible. I was born with a severe candida over

growth. My mother had a severe over growth to the point her breast milk

was so toxic it just about killed me the first week of my life. The

candida overgrowth was with me till I was 24 years old. I can tell I

have flareups when I am under stress and abuse my body and burn my

candle on all ends.

>

> Wil

>

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2. DIM

Posted by: “IMS” imsinfo  yahoo.com imsinfo

Date: Mon Nov 2, 2009 10:55 am ((PST))

I wonder if somebody tried DIM?

I was going to try but in my age 52 it is probably not a good idea bc estrogen should drop itself. My estrogen is too high according to saliva test and I belive so bc I have many related problems _ adenomyoma fibroid, otosclerosis and hot flashes. Some expert say hormone inbalace cause candida too.

Though my blood test is different and showed very high progesterone instead I am still concern about estrogen too. I have red that too much of both can cause reflux and dismotility problems.When I took progesteron I had severe burning in esophasgus but it could be estrogen influence as it is increasing too.

Lisa

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3. Fw: ONIONS!! Interesting

Posted by: “carmensa” can2cis-y  yahoo.com can_cis

Date: Mon Nov 2, 2009 2:30 pm ((PST))

We already know that onions and garlic are one of nature’s most powerful antifungals, antibacterial, antiseptics, etc

FWD: ——————

A friend

of mine told me a story about how when he was a kid he was in the hospital

& near dying. His Italian grandmother came to the hospital & told a

family member to go buy her a large onion & a new pair of white cotton

socks. She sliced the onion open then put a slice on the bottom of each of his

feet & put the white cotton socks on him. In the morning when he awoke they

removed the socks. The slices of onion were black & his fever was gone.

The

following story that someone sent to me might have some truth in it & we

are going to try this winter.  In 1919

when the flu killed 40 million people there was this Doctor that visited the

many farmers to see if he could help them combat the flu. Many of the farmers

and their family had contracted it and many died.The doctor came upon this one

farmer and to his surprise, everyone was very healthy. When the doctor asked

what the farmer was doing that was different the wife replied that she had

placed an unpeeled onion in a dish in the rooms of the home, (probably only two

rooms back then). The doctor couldn’t believe it and asked if he could have one

of the onions and place it under the microscope. She gave him one and when he

did this, he did find the flu virus in the onion. It obviously absorbed the

bacteria, therefore, keeping the family healthy.

Now, I heard this story from my hairdresser in

AZ. She said that several years ago many of her employees were coming down with

the flu and so were many of her customers. The next year she placed several

bowls with onions around in her shop. To her surprise, none of her staff got

sick. It must work.. (And no, she is not in the onion business.)

The moral

of the story is, buy some onions and place them in bowls around your home. If

you work at a desk, place one or two in your office or under your desk or even

on top somewhere. Try it and see what happens. We did it last year and we never

got the flu.  If this helps you and your

loved ones from getting sick, all the better. If you do get the flu, it just

might be a mild case.. Whatever, what have you got to lose? Just a few bucks on

onions!!!!!!

Now there

is a P. S. to this for I sent it to a friend in Oregon who regularly

contributes material to me on health issues. She replied with this most

interesting experience about onions:Weldon, thanks for the reminder. I don’t

know about the farmers story…but, I do know that I contacted pneumonia and

needless to say I was very ill…I came across an article that said to cut both

ends off an onion put one end on a fork and then place the forked end into an

empty jar…placing the jar next to the sick patient at night. It said the

onion would be black in the morning from the germs…sure enough it happened

just like that…the onion was a mess and I began to feel better.

Another

thing I read in the article was that onions and garlic placed around the room

saved many from the black plague years ago.  They have powerful antibacterial, antiseptic properties

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4. Need Help: gut inflammation and transfer factor?

Posted by: “emilynk.chan” emilynk.chan  yahoo.com emilynk.chan

Date: Mon Nov 2, 2009 2:34 pm ((PST))

Hi Listmates,

I just got my son’s CDSA stool test results which shows that he has very elevated levels of Lysozyme at 1490 (ref is =<600) and lactoferrin at 6.7 (ref is <7.3) and slgA at 490 which is also outside range.  He was also positive for occult blood.  Lately his stool has been loose and very yellow, and I notice he has been sleeping on his tummy for a couple of weeks.

The results seem to indicate inflammation because a CDSA done just 1 month ago showed lysozyme at 150, lactoferrin at 0.9 and slgA at 18.  I am not sure whether the inflammation is triggered by bacteria or food or something ingested.  I have just started transfer factor shortly before the sample for stool test was collected and I don’t know if the transfer factor could cause this kind of reaction.  Can anyone help please?

Many thanks

Regards,

Emily

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5a. Re: yeast in blood?

Posted by: “Paspenc5  cs.com” Paspenc5  cs.com lemonade19882000

Date: Mon Nov 2, 2009 2:34 pm ((PST))

If one has developed “Leaky Gut Syndrome”, it seems entirely possible to me

that yeast can find its way into the blood stream…

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Posted by: “daisytiff228  aol.com” daisytiff228  aol.com litldaisytiff

Date: Mon Nov 2, 2009 2:36 pm ((PST))

Was wondering if anyone here had mercury amalgams removed? I believe this

is my cause of the candida issue. So im planning to have them removed first.

Then work on the candida issue.

I just dont know if I should chelate first. It sounds kind of scary and it

says you have to do it for a few years. I think id rather remove the

mercury and  then work on the candida issue and skip the chelation, just not sure

if its  necessary or not?

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7a. Re: HELP – how to continue with biomed?

Posted by: “emilynk.chan” emilynk.chan  yahoo.com emilynk.chan

Date: Mon Nov 2, 2009 2:37 pm ((PST))

Hi Jane,

Thank you for your input.

Actually now I am minded to go down the nautropath route also.  My son’s naturopath says my son has kidney and adrenal problems and she has given him so naturopath/ homeopathic stuff to deal with that.

Hope these will help.  Ever since taking him off most DAN supps, he is much happier, calmer and more engaging and relaxed.  Makes me wonder whether pushing all those supps down his throat in the past 2 years hurt him at all…..

Regards,

Emily

— In candidiasis  yahoogroups.com, “Jane” <GreenEcoBean  …> wrote:

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> Emily -

>

> I was told (by a ND) not too long ago that my son (also autism) could not

> handle any supplements until I worked on his kidneys.

>

> So maybe look at organ support for a bit and then try other supplements down

> the road.

>

> Jane

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: emilynk.chan <emilynk.chan  …>

> To: candidiasis  yahoogroups.com

> Sent: Thu, October 29, 2009 5:27:33 AM

> Subject: [candidiasis] HELP – how to continue with biomed?

>

>

> Hi Listmates,

>

> I have been doing biomed on my son for 2 years with little progress. Biggest

> problem is my son seems intolerant of most of the supps I gave and he falls

> ill easily and then becomes even more intolerant of the supps. So these 2

> years have been like start-stop, start-stop for me with little progress.

>

> Just recently I started doing antifungals on him and restarting on

> supplements again. But as soon as I add more supps (esp vit B’s), he starts

> to show signs of distress with a lot of aggitation, temper tantrums,

> spaciness, unable to focus, increased verbal stims and other stims,

> unresponsive. So a week ago I decided to stop most of the supps and then he

> became relaxed, happy with little stim and performing much, much better at

> therapy class, no more teeth grinding.

>

> The only supps he was on before I stopped this time round were zinc,

> Magnesium citrate, Vitamin B6, P5P, Biotin, MB12 shots, Methylfolate,

> various probiotics, transfer factor, taurine. A wek ago I stopped everything

> except zinc, probiotics, transfer factor and antifungal medicine with

> occasional charcoal – and he began to feel and perform so much better.

> Despite that his OAT and other tests shows that he still has a lot of

> deficiencies – like VitB6, folic acid, B12, selenium, Vit D, Vit E.

>

> I am really puzzled – so does that mean I will never be able to upload him

> with all the supps that he needs?

>

> Any input would be hugely appreciated.

>

> REgards,

> Emily

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8a. Re: Cocunut oil

Posted by: “can_cis” can2cis-y  yahoo.com can_cis

Date: Mon Nov 2, 2009 6:43 pm ((PST))

Greg, there are things that can be changed, there is acceptance for the things that can not be changed and there is wisdom to know the difference.

This is the acceptance I’m talking about…

enjoy the ride,

carmen

— In candidiasis  yahoogroups.com, “dreaminginnoother” <dreaminginnoother  …> wrote:

>

> I haven’t taken it in almost 2 years.  I still don’t get “acceptance”.  The whole thing still sounds like another way to tell others their plights are their own faults in thinking.  Makes the inconvenience of empathy avoidable.

>

> greg