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1.1. Re: Beware of Bee Wilder – LONG (was Re: [candidiasis] Re: Baccilus

From: Debby Padilla-Hudson

1.2. Re: Beware of Bee Wilder – LONG (was Re: [candidiasis] Re: Baccilus

From: Debby Padilla-Hudson

1.3. Beware of Bee Wilder – LONG (was Re: [candidiasis] Re: Baccilus Late

From: AprilRain

2a. Re: Beware of Bee Wilder – LONG (was Re: [candidiasis] Re: Baccilus

From: Debby Padilla-Hudson

2b. Beware of Bee Wilder – LONG (was Re: [candidiasis] Re: Baccilus Late

From: margretdzn

2c. Beware of Bee Wilder – LONG (was Re: [candidiasis] Re: Baccilus Late

From: rattlesnakebobbob

2d. Re: Beware of Bee Wilder – LONG (was Re: [candidiasis] Re: Baccilus

From: Debby Padilla-Hudson

3a. Re: Has anyone  been sucessful in overcoming candida without a gallb

From: AprilRain

4. Male Yeast Infection Symptoms

From: ufcvekialrin

5.1. Beware of Bee Wilder – LONG (was Re: [candidiasis] Re: Baccilus Late

From: sherdavidson

5.2. Re: Beware of Bee Wilder – LONG (was Re: [candidiasis] Re: Baccilus

From: Debby Padilla-Hudson

6a. Re: [SPAM] Re: [candidiasis] Re: glutathione and aging-bentonite

From: The Murphys

7.1. [SPAM] Re: [candidiasis] Re: I need help with fat metabolism

From: DuncanC

8a. Inulin info for Duncan+FOS

From: DuncanC

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1.1. Re: Beware of Bee Wilder – LONG (was Re: [candidiasis] Re: Baccilus

Posted by: “Debby Padilla-Hudson” debbypadilla yahoo.com debbypadilla

Date: Thu Oct 15, 2009 10:00 am ((PDT))

I wish the world worked that way from my perspective.  Doesn’t it seem some times that there is no justice?  Some times I think we won’t really be able to get justice in this world, only the afterlife.

Luv, Debby in San Jose, CA

Student: Nutrition Certification and PhD in Psychology

Website: http://www.naturallythriving.com

Group: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/curingcandida/

—– Original Message —-

> From: Wil Spencer

>

> This post makes thing real clear for me!  Thank you Debby!  I have been told

> similar by a few others.  Just remember, You sow, You shall reap!!!

>

> Wil

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1.2. Re: Beware of Bee Wilder – LONG (was Re: [candidiasis] Re: Baccilus

Posted by: “Debby Padilla-Hudson” debbypadilla yahoo.com debbypadilla

Date: Thu Oct 15, 2009 10:13 am ((PDT))

Sorry to be obtuse (if I am) but I’m not sure who you are talking about.  I’d say that there are folks on this list who give advice I don’t agree with, that might not be beneficial and may prolong illness, but none which I would consider blatantly life-threatening and dangerous.  For instance one woman who was on Bee’s list was a nurse who worked with newborns.

She had the flu and asked Bee about washing her hands around the newborns.  Bee’s response was that the “Germ theory” isn’t true and there is no need for her to wash her hands.  Even the regular flu has the capacity to kill people, especially newborns, elderly and other immuno-compromised people.

She has told many people with heart palpitations that it is because of die-off, but it could be from a life-threatening electrolyte imbalance.  She told a woman who was bleeding vaginally for 9 months that she was having die-off and told her don’t bother to go see a doctor.

It turns out the woman had cervical cancer.  I haven’t seen anyone give advice to this level on this group.  There might be some advice that may worsen symptoms or prolong illness, but I truly haven’t seen any truly flat out life-threatening advice given here.

Luv, Debby in San Jose, CA

Student: Nutrition Certification and PhD in Psychology

Website: http://www.naturallythriving.com

Group: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/curingcandida/

—– Original Message —-

> From: algaelady1 <carol minnick.us>

>

> Hmmmmm…..remind you of anyone on our list here??

>

>

> — In candidiasis yahoogroups.com, Debby Padilla-Hudson

> wrote:

>

> > “To answer your question about what ideas she has that I consider dangerous,

> there are many. Here’s a partial list:

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1.3. Beware of Bee Wilder – LONG (was Re: [candidiasis] Re: Baccilus Late

Posted by: “AprilRain” aprilrain1228 yahoo.co.in aprilrain1228

Date: Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:21 pm ((PDT))

debbie,

thank you for your reply & information.

April

— In candidiasis yahoogroups.com, Wil Spencer <wilspencer …> wrote:

>

> This post makes thing real clear for me!  Thank you Debby!  I have been told similar by a few others.  Just remember, You sow, You shall reap!!!

>

> Wil

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Debby Padilla-Hudson <debbypadilla …>

> To: candidiasis yahoogroups.com

> Sent: Thu, October 15, 2009 12:04:42 AM

> Subject: Beware of Bee Wilder – LONG (was Re: [candidiasis] Re: Baccilus Laterosporus BOD)

>

>

> Here are a few links to messages discussing this topic:

>

> http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ candidiasis/ message/60127

> http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ candidiasis/ message/55571

> http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ candidiasis/ message/57058

> http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ candidiasis/ message/57295

>

> This is a message I wrote in my group so it may not be totally relevant in here or may seem to be worded strangely, to give you some context, but it does talk about several reasons I believe her advice is dangerous.

>

> “To answer your question about what ideas she has that I consider dangerous, there are many. Here’s a partial list:

>

> 1.) She diagnoses people regularly online. Not even doctors should/would diagnose people online. You just can’t do a proper diagnosis online. There are tests you can do that require the person to be present and physically examined. There are lab tests that should be done in many cases. Natural healing advice should compliment medical advice, not be a substitute for it.

>

> 2.) She regularly tells people to avoid doctors and follow her advice instead, including for potentially deadly symptoms like heart palpitations and what has turned out to be cancer in a few situations. We always make sure to recommend people check with their doctors, work with their doctors, and at least get a diagnosis, especially if a symptom sounds dangerous in the slightest.

>

> 3.) She has no credentials and allows no one to counter her advice. You’ll see that Sarah and I sometimes disagree about things or have different points of views. It’s important to have this.. in science this is called peer-review, and Sarah and I balance each other out because we have a relationship where we will counter each other and make each other think and re-check the things we say (and our friendship allows for us to do this without ever taking it personally).

>

> 4.) I also agree with the too much sodium and baking soda issue that Sarah mentioned and potential issues with electrolytes. . this can be life threatening.

>

> 5.) She attributes just about every symptom to candida overgrowth or die-off when it is often unrelated. Like with the heart palpitation issue this can be very dangerous. Certain things like infections can be life-threatening and avoiding antibiotics in this case can be deadly. At a certain point medical intervention should be used. She actually told someone on her group who was having massive chest pains to avoid going to the doctor.

>

> When this person got upset, she banned her from her group and wrote nasty messages to her. I saw a lot of things behind the scenes as her moderator that many people were not aware of. She behaves completely differently when she is in private and not pretending to be nice and helpful for her group. There is a reason she moderates everyone on her group – this is because when people disagree with her or want to tell the truth about how she treated them, she silences them so she can continue putting on an air.

>

> We do not moderate people on this group unless they are rude or when they are new to prevent spammers. We certainly don’t moderate people because they disagree with us or because they want to tell us off. We don’t treat people rudely so we don’t need to worry about people wanting to bad-mouth us.

>

> 6.) She rarely knows what she is talking about and looks up most things on the net or repeats what she read in the past. She is not a fountain of knowledge as she portrays herself to be, she is a person who knows how to use a search engine, and has the time to sit at home and look up stuff and try to put on a front.  She usually searches the net for an answer, copy/pastes it into a message and then changes a few of the words around so it’s more difficult to search for the exact words on a net search.  Every article on her website and the majority of what she posts is 99% plaigarized and very seldom does she give credit for original work of others.

>

> 7.) She has no compassion for people really. She puts on a front for her group, but in private she is extremely cruel, domineering and rude. There are many people who are very ill and depressed, and this can push someone who is in this state over the edge to suicide. In fact recently I found out that someone named Sharon Jerdee, who was on the Candidiasis group, committed suicide. I believe she was on Bee’s group as well. I’m not saying that Bee was responsible for that, however just pointing out how important it is to treat people with respect. Treating people compassionately at all times is imperative when you are in the position of helping people, in public and in private, because of the potential risk to their emotional health.

>

> 8.) Her program is one-size-fits all without regard to people’s individual DNA expression, background, medical conditions, supplementation, size and more. This includes the variations in the different foods that work for people, ratios, amounts, etc.

>

> 9.) She frequently tells people that allergies don’t exist, that this is a die-off or healing reaction. She does not acknowledge that even some foods that she considers healthy may not be healthy for everyone.

>

> I could also list a TON of reasons why not to deal with her that have nothing to do with her dangerous advice. Her lack of integrity, her megalomania, etc. I believe strongly that she has narcissistic personality disorder. This list is just off the top of my head.. I’m sure there’s more but I think that’s enough. :)

>

> Her stealing the website I built is a good exmple.  By the way, I really do hope this topic dies out soon because I really hate even thinking about that woman. It’s kind of like I try to forget about how badly she took advantage of me, and then I keep getting reminded of it again because people bring up her name and have questions. It’s nobody’s fault though so I don’t hold it against them. To give an analogy, it’s like if you met someone who worked in charity but had a hard time getting to work.

>

> Say you built cars for a living, so you decided to help this person by building them a car and you let them borrow it. So you work your tail off for many months, build them a car, and then let them drive it around. While you are building the car they constantly complain about how long it’s taking, how they want it this way or that, and in general show a lack of appreciation. You finish building a beautiful car for them to use, but then realize you don’t want to do maintenance because it means dealing with them and you get fed up with their berating you constantly.

>

> To make matters worse, you find out they don’t want to use the car for charity, but to make money for themselves and to exploit people. So you tell them you don’t want to work on the car anymore, try to take the car back and move on with your life. Then they steal your car that you built, spray paint it so it looks like a different car and then tell thousands of people lies about you. You are unable to defend yourself, but you try calling the police.

>

> The police investigate but that person lies and says they built the car themselves. That’s basically the analogy that would help people understand what happened with the website (in the analogy the car) without being too technical including details on the website. In any case, I’m glad you enjoy the environment we have tried to set up here. I appreciate your input and hope this helps clear some things up.”

>

> Luv, Debby in San Jose, CA

>

> —– Original Message —-

> > From: AprilRain

> >

> > can someone tell me how bee is bad news & how she has harmed people?

> > i’m curious to what is wrong with the way she gives instructions to people to

> > help get yeast back to the friendly yeast?

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2a. Re: Beware of Bee Wilder – LONG (was Re: [candidiasis] Re: Baccilus

Posted by: “Debby Padilla-Hudson” debbypadilla yahoo.com debbypadilla

Date: Thu Oct 15, 2009 10:59 am ((PDT))

It’s called Candida Support.

Luv, Debby in San Jose, CA

Student: Nutrition Certification and PhD in Psychology

Website: http://www.naturallythriving.com

Group: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/curingcandida/

—– Original Message —-

> From: “margretdzn

>

> can someone please tell me what her group name is (in case I  run across

> it, I can avoid)……..????

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2b. Beware of Bee Wilder – LONG (was Re: [candidiasis] Re: Baccilus Late

Posted by: “margretdzn” margretdzn aol.com margretdzn

Date: Thu Oct 15, 2009 12:46 pm ((PDT))

Thanks Debby—I learn so much good info from this group……:):):)

— In candidiasis yahoogroups.com, Debby Padilla-Hudson <debbypadilla …> wrote:

>

> It’s called Candida Support.

>

>  Luv, Debby in San Jose, CA

> Student: Nutrition Certification and PhD in Psychology

> Website: http://www.naturallythriving.com

> Group: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/curingcandida/

>

>

>

> —– Original Message —-

> > From: “margretdzn

> >

> > can someone please tell me what her group name is (in case I  run across

> > it, I can avoid)……..????

>

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2c. Beware of Bee Wilder – LONG (was Re: [candidiasis] Re: Baccilus Late

Posted by: “rattlesnakebobbob” rattlesnakebobbob yahoo.com rattlesnakebobbob

Date: Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:22 pm ((PDT))

1. i dont see the problem with her diet.

2. why is it dangerous?

3.if it is her personality then that should be explained.

4. maybe bits of every ones diet put together is the best?

take care

bob

— In candidiasis yahoogroups.com, margretdzn … wrote:

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> can someone please tell me what her group name is (in case I  run across

> it, I can avoid)……..????

>

> Blessings, Margaret

> “We are not held back by the love we didn’t receive in the  past, but by

> the love we’re not extending in the present.”

> —Marianne  Williamson

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2d. Re: Beware of Bee Wilder – LONG (was Re: [candidiasis] Re: Baccilus

Posted by: “Debby Padilla-Hudson” debbypadilla yahoo.com debbypadilla

Date: Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:32 pm ((PDT))

I didn’t say her diet is dangerous, I said her advice is.  There are parts of her diet that are dangerous such as too much salt, but for the most part it’s what I recommend which is why I connected with her in the first place.  Some of her supplement suggestions are wacky too like too much calcium, but I don’t necessarily consider that part of the diet.  Her other wacky suggestions that I detailed in my last email, such as avoiding doctors, germ theory, etc. is the advice I was referring to.

Luv, Debby in San Jose, CA

Student: Nutrition Certification and PhD in Psychology

Website: http://www.naturallythriving.com

Group: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/curingcandida/

—– Original Message —-

> From: rattlesnakebobbob

> 1. i dont see the problem with her diet.

> 2. why is it dangerous?

> 3.if it is her personality then that should be explained.

> 4. maybe bits of every ones diet put together is the best?

>

>

> take care

> bob

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3a. Re: Has anyone  been sucessful in overcoming candida without a gallb

Posted by: “AprilRain” aprilrain1228 yahoo.co.in aprilrain1228

Date: Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:21 pm ((PDT))

Wil,

thank you for the quick reply. Whay kind of digestive enzymes would you recommend & why do you think i need enzymes since i no longer have my gallbladder?

Also how would you suggest i build my body back up after being pregnant & breastfeeding?

April

— In candidiasis yahoogroups.com, Wil Spencer <wilspencer …> wrote:

>

> The candida diet alone with deminish alot of symptoms.  With out a gall bladder you will have to supplement with enzymes. and be alittle careful on the diet.  I do recommend cutting out all insoluble fiber from the diet. You can read that in www.fibermenace.com.

>

> Not eating while pregnant or nursing will cause your body to mine and use your own body to feed the baby.  Basiclly strip your nourshiment/health form your soft tissue create food to feed the baby.  So now you have to rebuild your body.

>

> And the candida over growth does not care if you have a gall bladder or not.  It is a fungus that lives in us by nature in our small intestines.

>

> Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: AprilRain <aprilrain1228 …>

> To: candidiasis yahoogroups.com

> Sent: Wed, October 14, 2009 5:56:20 PM

> Subject: [candidiasis] Has anyone  been sucessful in overcoming candida without a gallbladder

>

>

> Has anyone in this group been sucessful in overcoming candida without a gallbladder?

>

> My gallbladder was removed in july 2008 not because i had gallstones not a one but because it was only emptying at 11%. I think i messed up my gallbladder because after my baby was born i lost weight to fast 45 pounds within 5 wks by just not eating alot & breastfeeding. Right around the time my gallbladder was giving me problems (pain & nausea) after eating fatty foods is right around the time my candida symptoms started to slowly surface. Then after being on antibiotics about 3 or 4 times in one year never because i had a infection & another pregnancy after the gallbladder was removed then my candida symptoms we’re really bad. (Acid reflux,joint pain, & fatigue, & egg allergies.

> Just wondering if anyone has had there gallbladder removed & has any sucess with getting there yeast back in check & living a normal healthy life again?

> I have had some sucess starting the anti candida diet i am now able to eat eggs with no problem & my everyday hayfever allergies that i’ve had for years i no longer take any meds for them.

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> April

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4. Male Yeast Infection Symptoms

Posted by: “ufcvekialrin” ufcvekialrin yahoo.com ufcvekialrin

Date: Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:22 pm ((PDT))

Yeast infection symptoms is not common to the women alone, it also has a lot to do with men, though not as common in comparable to the percentage of women infected .Most of the time yeast producing bactaria is usually thriving in warm and humid places like the vaginal. It is very rare that the penile yeast infection will originate from the man.Male yeast infection symptoms are usually the same as vaginal yeast infection symptom.

Below are some male yeast infection symptoms

? Pain during sexual intercourse

? Burning sensation when urinating

? Rash on the top of the penis

? Slight swelling

? Atimes there may be discharge.

Men usually contract yeast infection during sexual intercourse from an already infected partner, which seems to be the common way for a man to get infected, basiclly it is not the only way,male yeast infection can be simply be contracted simply by using the same towel with an infected person. The symptom of penile yeast infection is similar to vaginal infection, but the only difference is that it can be found on the penis not vaginal.

During urination, a man infected with yeast infection can be expected to suffer from a burning sensation on the tip of the penis. Pain during sexual intercourse is another common symptom of penile yeast infection, so the best thing is to abstain from having sexual intercourse until you treat the infection.

Itching is another irritating symptoms if this happen it is ad visable to seek for medical advise but in case you are not satisfied, there are solutions that are natural and not harmful, this has to do with applying unsweetened youghurt to the infected region. Continuation with this treatment will give you relief.

So if you are experiencing these symptoms or you suspect you suffer from yeast infection it is necessary to consult your doctor. Your doctor will be able to determine whether you suffer from yeast infection or a different type of infection. For more on how to cure yeast infection visit the link below.

3 Days To Permanent Yeast Freedom – http://wsayeast.key.to/

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5.1. Beware of Bee Wilder – LONG (was Re: [candidiasis] Re: Baccilus Late

Posted by: “sherdavidson” sherdavidson yahoo.com sherdavidson

Date: Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:22 pm ((PDT))

Just FYI, I joined her group at about the same time I joined this one.  I unsubbed after less than an hour after basically reading her rules.  Something didn’t seem right.  I saw red flags everywhere when she said things like all posts had to go through her and I got the impression no discussion between group members was allowed.  Her whole approach seemed very controlling and I wanted no part of it.

Since the topic came up — my 2cents.

— In candidiasis yahoogroups.com, Debby Padilla-Hudson <debbypadilla …> wrote:

>

> Here are a few links to messages discussing this topic:

>

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/candidiasis/message/60127

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/candidiasis/message/55571

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/candidiasis/message/57058

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/candidiasis/message/57295

>

> This is a message I wrote in my group so it may not be totally relevant in here or may seem to be worded strangely, to give you some context, but it does talk about several reasons I believe her advice is dangerous.

>

> “To answer your question about what ideas she has that I consider dangerous, there are many. Here’s a partial list:

>

> 1.) She diagnoses people regularly online. Not even doctors should/would diagnose people online. You just can’t do a proper diagnosis online. There are tests you can do that require the person to be present and physically examined. There are lab tests that should be done in many cases. Natural healing advice should compliment medical advice, not be a substitute for it.

>

> 2.) She regularly tells people to avoid doctors and follow her advice instead, including for potentially deadly symptoms like heart palpitations and what has turned out to be cancer in a few situations. We always make sure to recommend people check with their doctors, work with their doctors, and at least get a diagnosis, especially if a symptom sounds dangerous in the slightest.

>

> 3.) She has no credentials and allows no one to counter her advice. You’ll see that Sarah and I sometimes disagree about things or have different points of views. It’s important to have this.. in science this is called peer-review, and Sarah and I balance each other out because we have a relationship where we will counter each other and make each other think and re-check the things we say (and our friendship allows for us to do this without ever taking it personally).

>

> 4.) I also agree with the too much sodium and baking soda issue that Sarah mentioned and potential issues with electrolytes.. this can be life threatening.

>

> 5.) She attributes just about every symptom to candida overgrowth or die-off when it is often unrelated. Like with the heart palpitation issue this can be very dangerous. Certain things like infections can be life-threatening and avoiding antibiotics in this case can be deadly. At a certain point medical intervention should be used. She actually told someone on her group who was having massive chest pains to avoid going to the doctor.

>

> When this person got upset, she banned her from her group and wrote nasty messages to her. I saw a lot of things behind the scenes as her moderator that many people were not aware of. She behaves completely differently when she is in private and not pretending to be nice and helpful for her group. There is a reason she moderates everyone on her group – this is because when people disagree with her or want to tell the truth about how she treated them, she silences them so she can continue putting on an air.

>

> We do not moderate people on this group unless they are rude or when they are new to prevent spammers. We certainly don’t moderate people because they disagree with us or because they want to tell us off. We don’t treat people rudely so we don’t need to worry about people wanting to bad-mouth us.

>

> 6.) She rarely knows what she is talking about and looks up most things on the net or repeats what she read in the past. She is not a fountain of knowledge as she portrays herself to be, she is a person who knows how to use a search engine, and has the time to sit at home and look up stuff and try to put on a front.  She usually searches the net for an answer, copy/pastes it into a message and then changes a few of the words around so it’s more difficult to search for the exact words on a net search.  Every article on her website and the majority of what she posts is 99% plaigarized and very seldom does she give credit for original work of others.

>

> 7.) She has no compassion for people really. She puts on a front for her group, but in private she is extremely cruel, domineering and rude. There are many people who are very ill and depressed, and this can push someone who is in this state over the edge to suicide. In fact recently I found out that someone named Sharon Jerdee, who was on the Candidiasis group, committed suicide. I believe she was on Bee’s group as well. I’m not saying that Bee was responsible for that, however just pointing out how important it is to treat people with respect. Treating people compassionately at all times is imperative when you are in the position of helping people, in public and in private, because of the potential risk to their emotional health.

>

> 8.) Her program is one-size-fits all without regard to people’s individual DNA expression, background, medical conditions, supplementation, size and more. This includes the variations in the different foods that work for people, ratios, amounts, etc.

>

> 9.) She frequently tells people that allergies don’t exist, that this is a die-off or healing reaction. She does not acknowledge that even some foods that she considers healthy may not be healthy for everyone.

>

> I could also list a TON of reasons why not to deal with her that have nothing to do with her dangerous advice. Her lack of integrity, her megalomania, etc. I believe strongly that she has narcissistic personality disorder. This list is just off the top of my head.. I’m sure there’s more but I think that’s enough. :)

>

> Her stealing the website I built is a good exmple.  By the way, I really do hope this topic dies out soon because I really hate even thinking about that woman. It’s kind of like I try to forget about how badly she took advantage of me, and then I keep getting reminded of it again because people bring up her name and have questions. It’s nobody’s fault though so I don’t hold it against them. To give an analogy, it’s like if you met someone who worked in charity but had a hard time getting to work.

>

> Say you built cars for a living, so you decided to help this person by building them a car and you let them borrow it. So you work your tail off for many months, build them a car, and then let them drive it around. While you are building the car they constantly complain about how long it’s taking, how they want it this way or that, and in general show a lack of appreciation. You finish building a beautiful car for them to use, but then realize you don’t want to do maintenance because it means dealing with them and you get fed up with their berating you constantly.

>

> To make matters worse, you find out they don’t want to use the car for charity, but to make money for themselves and to exploit people. So you tell them you don’t want to work on the car anymore, try to take the car back and move on with your life. Then they steal your car that you built, spray paint it so it looks like a different car and then tell thousands of people lies about you. You are unable to defend yourself, but you try calling the police.

>

> The police investigate but that person lies and says they built the car themselves. That’s basically the analogy that would help people understand what happened with the website (in the analogy the car) without being too technical including details on the website. In any case, I’m glad you enjoy the environment we have tried to set up here. I appreciate your input and hope this helps clear some things up.”

>

> Luv, Debby in San Jose, CA

>

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5.2. Re: Beware of Bee Wilder – LONG (was Re: [candidiasis] Re: Baccilus

Posted by: “Debby Padilla-Hudson” debbypadilla yahoo.com debbypadilla

Date: Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:39 pm ((PDT))

Sounds like you have a good deal of intuition.  I wish I had followed mine.  I tend to try to empathize with people and believe that they have good intentions and sometimes I get burned.  I don’t want to become a pessimist so I’ll continue trying to think the best of people but I did learn a thing or two from the experience.

Luv, Debby in San Jose, CA

Student: Nutrition Certification and PhD in Psychology

Website: http://www.naturallythriving.com

Group: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/curingcandida/

—– Original Message —-

> From: sherdavidson

>

> Just FYI, I joined her group at about the same time I joined this one.  I

> unsubbed after less than an hour after basically reading her rules.  Something

> didn’t seem right.  I saw red flags everywhere when she said things like all

> posts had to go through her and I got the impression no discussion between group

> members was allowed.  Her whole approach seemed very controlling and I wanted no

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6a. Re: [SPAM] Re: [candidiasis] Re: glutathione and aging-bentonite

Posted by: “The Murphys” pjmurphy cableone.net pjmurphy1947

Date: Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:22 pm ((PDT))

I use the dry for baths.  It is really hard to dissolve.  I do love the baths.  I have taken pascalite clay by mouth.  Same story–hard to dissolve.

BJ

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From: Jane

To: candidiasis yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 7:22 AM

Subject: [SPAM] Re: [candidiasis] Re: glutathione and aging-bentonite

I was just getting ready to order some bentonite and was wondering if there

were any suggestions here. I was looking at a liquid hydrated version from

Veico.

Thanks,

Jane

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From: Debby Padilla-Hudson

Date: 10/13/2009 1:59:03 AM

To: candidiasis yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [candidiasis] Re: glutathione and aging

I don’t have personal experience with whey but I did find that bentonite

clay, milk thistle and molybdenum helped me deal with candida toxins very

well.

Luv, Debby in San Jose, CA

Student: Nutrition Certification and PhD in Psychology

Website: http://www.naturallythriving.com

Group: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/curingcandida/

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> From: Keycross

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> Wil, I respect your knowledge and read book on Candida which i liked and

believe

> it has great merit BUT,

> I still take Duncans advice and supplement with Undenatured whey isolate

every

> day. It seems to reduce the toxic load of the candida to a small extent

with me

> and that alone is worth it. I sincerely doubt that Duncan and Mercola and

> hundreds of others that have researched the pro’s and con’s of whey would

ever

> say it is TOXIC and useless to humans.

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7.1. [SPAM] Re: [candidiasis] Re: I need help with fat metabolism

Posted by: “DuncanC” duncancrow shaw.ca duncancrow

Date: Thu Oct 15, 2009 8:59 pm ((PDT))

I think you’re mistaken on the fiber, Wil; do fruit and vegetables exist that have no insoluble fiber? What’s your solution?

Duncan

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> In my experience the fatty liver and the diebetes is a by-product of consuming insoluble fiber.

> They both go away when you stop eating insoluble fiber.  We as humans are not designed to eat that junk.  Our digestive tract is to short.

> Wil

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> To: candidiasis yahoogroups.com

> Sent: Tue, October 13, 2009 8:24:16 PM

> Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: [candidiasis] Re: I need help with fat metabolism

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> My dr. says it comes from diabetes.

> BJ

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> —– Original Message —–

> From: Wil Spencer

> To: candidiasis  yahoogroups. com

> Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 10:34 AM

> Subject: [SPAM] Re: [candidiasis] Re: I need help with fat metabolism

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> Fatty livers can also be a symptom of to much insoluable fiber in the diet. You can find this on the web site of www.fibermenace. com

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> Wil

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> From: “can2cis-y yahoo. com” <can2cis-y yahoo. com>

> To: candidiasis  yahoogroups. com

> Sent: Mon, October 12, 2009 1:25:58 PM

> Subject: Re: [candidiasis] Re: I need help with fat metabolism

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> Duncan, not every fatty liver comes from alcohol. Doctors do distinguish between alcoholic and non-alcoholic types.

> Mine certainly does not, and most definitely my kitties never ingested alcohol but just got diagnosed with fatty liver.

> Kitties do not have the required enzyme to handle coconut oil.

> Yes, per Bee’s advice I gave my kitties coco oil for about 2-3 weeks, though I’ve had prior advice and research article saying otherwise.

> So, going back to humans -let’s pick me- who know *what* my body does not have in order to *handle* coco oil

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> carmen

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> To: candidiasis  yahoogroups. com

> Sent: Mon, October 12, 2009 10:54:43 AM

> Subject: [candidiasis] Re: I need help with fat metabolism

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> … I tell my clients to watch their drinking for the fatty liver.

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8a. Inulin info for Duncan+FOS

Posted by: “DuncanC” duncancrow shaw.ca duncancrow

Date: Thu Oct 15, 2009 9:05 pm ((PDT))

Margaret, FOS is the main food for bifidobacteria; they grow on it very quickly. FOS is actually a health food but SOME pathogens can break it down, at least the three and I think four link chains.

Duncan

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> that’s a great question, I hope gets answered…….I have  been told not

> to use FOS after doing so for years, so I avoid it, but I’m  interested in

> inulin……..

> ?????

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