[candidiasis] Digest Number 5874
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There are 10 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. vit A and blurry vision
From: sol
2.1. Re: Stoneyfield Yogurt
From: crgstef
3. Align?
From: Paspenc5 cs.com
4a. Re: My Story & MMS
From: Keycross
5. Wil – what is your take on this link from terry??
From: Keycross
6. Play Nice…But wait, this candida stuff is NOT a game!
From: NieeMA
7.1. threelac
From: daisytiff228 aol.com
8.1. Re: SUGARS Duncan
From: dreaminginnoother
8.2. Re: SUGARS Duncan
From: dreaminginnoother
8.3. Re: SUGARS Duncan
From: dreaminginnoother
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1. vit A and blurry vision
Posted by: “sol” solbun sweetwaterhsa.com cat_thump
Date: Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:10 pm ((PDT))
In addition to early cataracts I have been suffering extreme blurry and
variable vision for at least the past 2 years. My opthalmologist said
that cataracts don’t cause the variable blurry vision, and I’ve been
jumping through test hoops since the end of July trying to find the cause.
Nothing at all has turned up from the official medical investigating,
but I did get a recommendation on another list to look at vit A.
I did, and have started taking high dose A. From the very next day after
my first high dose of A, I could see without blurriness again. The
blurriness is gone. I’ve been taking A now since saturday, am wearing an
old pair of glasses from before I had either the blurriness or the
cataracts, and seeing really well.
Since I have been told it can take a long time for vit A levels to build
up to optimal, can anyone explain this immediate result?
thanks,
sol
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2.1. Re: Stoneyfield Yogurt
Posted by: “crgstef” crgstef aol.com crgstef
Date: Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:10 pm ((PDT))
Hi Bruce,
I think you’re confusing Inulin with Insulin.
Craig
— In candidiasis yahoogroups.com, bruce j <may_ub.happy …> wrote:
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> No foods contain insulin. That is one of the myths floating around.
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> However, the foods that we eat increase or decrease the insulin levels in our bodies.
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> Animals are often given supplements such as antibiotics and vitamins. But, no animals are given insulin. So, don’t believe it if someone tells you that insulin is in meat, fish, or vegetables.
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> What we eat makes a significant difference in our overall health. For diabetics, it is very important to eat foods that do not throw off the balance of insulin.
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> You should keep in mind that most people who email on this list are not doctor’s or scientists.
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> Peace be with you.
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> Cheers
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> Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 03:24:01 +0000
> Subject: [candidiasis] Stoneyfield Yogurt
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3. Align?
Posted by: “Paspenc5 cs.com” Paspenc5 cs.com lemonade19882000
Date: Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:10 pm ((PDT))
Has anyone here tried the probiotic Align by Proctor & Gamble? I am
curious to learn of the experience others may have had with this — good or bad.
Paul
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4a. Re: My Story & MMS
Posted by: “Keycross” crossshapedkeys verizon.net keycross
Date: Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:11 pm ((PDT))
Duncan:
I STOPPED doing ozone IV’s because the ORP ( oxygen reduction potential ) is too high compared to C102 which doesn’t do harm to normal cells. MMS is in ozone is out. I can’t afford $300 per week for ozone iv’s but can afford the $3 per week for MMS.
After 20 ozone treatments I don’t fell any better or worse than when I started, but after 2 weeks on MMS i can tell a substantial difference.
Thanks
Keycross
—– Original Message —–
From: DuncanC
To: candidiasis yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 1:36 PM
Subject: [candidiasis] Re: My Story & MMS
Wil, Dr. Pressman and I do oxygen therapies generally and we don’t need another one that has chlorine in it
Duncan
— In candidiasis yahoogroups.com, Wil Spencer <wilspencer …> wrote:
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> You seen like a reasonable man, but the chlorine molecule comes in many forms. The word chlorine is again a generic term like calling chlorine bleach, which is NOT the active ingrediant of MMS. The active molecule is chlorine dioxide.
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> http://www.epa.gov/safewater/mdbp/pdf/alter/chapt_4.pdf here is a goverment paper that is helpful for you to understand and just by simply googling MMS or chlorine dioxide you will be amazed. You need to talk to the 100′s of my clients with out ms, cancer, lymes HIV/AIDS and the like to tell me it is toxic.
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> Look at coffee! That is also a toxin.
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> Wil
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> From: DuncanC <duncancrow …>
> To: candidiasis yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu, October 22, 2009 11:09:23 AM
> Subject: [candidiasis] Re: My Story & MMS
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> I never got past the “MMS is a toxin” part of ozone guru Dr. Pressman’ s explanation. He’s dead against liberating chlorine in your cells, but certainly poisoning of many types has been used in medicine.
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> Duncan
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> — In candidiasis yahoogroups. com, “\”Cork Daddy\”" <jcxtk > wrote:
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> > I recently just started using the MMS (Miracle Mineral Solution) and i wish i had been using before my 23rd birthday. I woke up the morning after my B-day with the left half of my face paralyzed, i didn’t know what happened and had no insurance but unfortunately I went to the hospital. Here to find out I had Lyme Disease and Spinal Meningitis. I was in there for a week and came out with a “picc line” in my arm for a month (so no activities at all) & over $35,000 in bills I’m stuck with now. What my point is, is that if i had been using the MMS in the first place, I would have completely avoided that entire situation at the hospital, with the disease, with the wasted time and with the enormous bills.
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> > So please everyone, to avoid risk with all the bad stuff out there in these money making schemes that people create, trying to subliminally hurt everyone and make them rely on the government, medicine, doctors etc. get the MMS formula, follow the directions, eat well and it’ll save your life! I recommend it to ANYone with or with out Candida or other diseases.
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5. Wil – what is your take on this link from terry??
Posted by: “Keycross” crossshapedkeys verizon.net keycross
Date: Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:11 pm ((PDT))
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From: Terry Insinga
To: candidiasis yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 6:25 AM
Subject: [candidiasis] candida a myth?
I found this website this morning while googling for info about the candida spit test. It says that the spit test and the whole candida diet idea is a hoax. Are they completely off base?
Terry
http://blog.natural-acne-solution.com/candida-and-acne-misinformation-strikes-again/
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6. Play Nice…But wait, this candida stuff is NOT a game!
Posted by: “NieeMA” nieema0 yahoo.com nieema0
Date: Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:29 pm ((PDT))
Greetings All
I am a going to step in and remind everyone that each person on this list has an opinion and they are asked to give of it freely here without a problem form and one!
I would hope that we will keep things in the bounds of being nice to each other and not have people leaving the list because they do not want to “nor should they have to” deal with…conflict due to others opinions!
Duncan this is the first time in a while I have said anything to you about being snippy…so please take a chill pill and stop it!!!
Will, you are the new kid on the block and I am sure have been around a block too and know the rules on civil discourse.
Both of you are two much of a value to the list to be snipping at each other!
If I have missed anyone, please let this email be a hint to you…we need to slow down and be our best selves for the good of the whole list…the list full of people that came to learn in a safe and nurturing atmosphere.
Nuff Said
NieeMA
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7.1. threelac
Posted by: “daisytiff228 aol.com” daisytiff228 aol.com litldaisytiff
Date: Fri Oct 23, 2009 10:34 pm ((PDT))
Im wondering if anyone here has tried threelac and if it has helped them or
not?
thanks.
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8.1. Re: SUGARS Duncan
Posted by: “dreaminginnoother” dreaminginnoother yahoo.com dreaminginnoother
Date: Fri Oct 23, 2009 11:20 pm ((PDT))
WEll, like I said, I have taken a round of xifaxan for that purpose a few years ago and didn’t really get anywhere with it. I’d try again, but finding a doc to percribe it ain’t easy.
greg
— In candidiasis yahoogroups.com, “DuncanC” <duncancrow …> wrote:
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> Greg, another try of Wil’s SBO? Wil says you can’t get well without it but it didn’t work; now Wil might have some comment to offer on the approach, dosage, brand or whatever.
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> The common way to get rid of an unknown infection is a broad spectrum antibiotic. Perhaps the abx, then the SBO, then the probiotics and inulin?
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> all good,
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> Duncan
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> — In candidiasis yahoogroups.com, “dreaminginnoother” <dreaminginnoother > wrote:
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> > it seems you are right. I am in the unlucky f***ed for life category it would seem. My prescription is perhaps a firearm
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> > greg
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> > — In candidiasis yahoogroups.com, “DuncanC” <duncancrow > wrote:
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> > > Greg, the last time you sought a negative reference on inulin on this list only a couple said they stopped using it and the majority improved. Over the last several years we’ve had four or five who can’t tolerate inulin. The gas dissipated in nearly everyone.
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> > > I have more positive comments on my page, without using the one-liners, than even responded to your question:
> > > http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/comments.html
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> > > The people who can’t take the most common complex carb after starch are certainly a small minority. Nearly all of us can obtain the same bowel health relief that we would have 3,000 years ago with same inulin that ancient Greek and Chinese doctors used
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> > > all good,
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> > > Duncan
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> > > — In candidiasis yahoogroups.com, “dreaminginnoother” <dreaminginnoother > wrote:
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> > > > and yet, very few people on this list seem to be able to tolerate inulin. In fact most of us feel it worsens the problem.
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> > > > — In candidiasis yahoogroups.com, “DuncanC” <duncancrow > wrote:
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> > > > > With respect, Will, I’d bet I’ve read as much of the bowel health science as you have, sometimes apparently more, and I point to much of this research on this list and in my inulin references, which compare sugars and starches with inulin and FOS fermentation.
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> > > > > We’ve discussed bacteria and several sugars WRT bowel health; it’s a strength in fact that makes this group the best bowel health group on the Internet.
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> > > > > Glad to have you on board; reopening previous topics will allow us to revisit these discussions in more detail.
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> > > > > Duncan
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> > > > > — In candidiasis yahoogroups.com, Wil Spencer <wilspencer > wrote:
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> > > > > > One very important thing Duncan is not getting is the recognition of these sugars and starches are done by the bacterium in the gut. With out the bacterium, most everything you eat will be a toxin and not a food. This is where the electrical side of digestion is foreign to most, ecspecially the current old school science trained minds. I explain it a little on my web site www.mbsre-set.com on the education tab.
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8.2. Re: SUGARS Duncan
Posted by: “dreaminginnoother” dreaminginnoother yahoo.com dreaminginnoother
Date: Fri Oct 23, 2009 11:21 pm ((PDT))
And no, I have not tried wil’s product, but I have taken latero flora like 3 years ago. I added some to my last vitacost order.
greg
— In candidiasis yahoogroups.com, “DuncanC” <duncancrow …> wrote:
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> Greg, another try of Wil’s SBO? Wil says you can’t get well without it but it didn’t work; now Wil might have some comment to offer on the approach, dosage, brand or whatever.
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> The common way to get rid of an unknown infection is a broad spectrum antibiotic. Perhaps the abx, then the SBO, then the probiotics and inulin?
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> Duncan
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> — In candidiasis yahoogroups.com, “dreaminginnoother” <dreaminginnoother > wrote:
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> > it seems you are right. I am in the unlucky f***ed for life category it would seem. My prescription is perhaps a firearm
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> > greg
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> > — In candidiasis yahoogroups.com, “DuncanC” <duncancrow > wrote:
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> > > Greg, the last time you sought a negative reference on inulin on this list only a couple said they stopped using it and the majority improved. Over the last several years we’ve had four or five who can’t tolerate inulin. The gas dissipated in nearly everyone.
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> > > I have more positive comments on my page, without using the one-liners, than even responded to your question:
> > > http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/comments.html
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> > > The people who can’t take the most common complex carb after starch are certainly a small minority. Nearly all of us can obtain the same bowel health relief that we would have 3,000 years ago with same inulin that ancient Greek and Chinese doctors used
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> > > all good,
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> > > Duncan
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> > > — In candidiasis yahoogroups.com, “dreaminginnoother” <dreaminginnoother > wrote:
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> > > > and yet, very few people on this list seem to be able to tolerate inulin. In fact most of us feel it worsens the problem.
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> > > > greg
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> > > > — In candidiasis yahoogroups.com, “DuncanC” <duncancrow > wrote:
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> > > > > With respect, Will, I’d bet I’ve read as much of the bowel health science as you have, sometimes apparently more, and I point to much of this research on this list and in my inulin references, which compare sugars and starches with inulin and FOS fermentation.
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> > > > > We’ve discussed bacteria and several sugars WRT bowel health; it’s a strength in fact that makes this group the best bowel health group on the Internet.
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> > > > > Glad to have you on board; reopening previous topics will allow us to revisit these discussions in more detail.
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> > > > > Duncan
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> > > > > — In candidiasis yahoogroups.com, Wil Spencer <wilspencer > wrote:
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> > > > > > One very important thing Duncan is not getting is the recognition of these sugars and starches are done by the bacterium in the gut. With out the bacterium, most everything you eat will be a toxin and not a food. This is where the electrical side of digestion is foreign to most, ecspecially the current old school science trained minds. I explain it a little on my web site www.mbsre-set.com on the education tab.
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> > > > > > Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath
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8.3. Re: SUGARS Duncan
Posted by: “dreaminginnoother” dreaminginnoother yahoo.com dreaminginnoother
Date: Fri Oct 23, 2009 11:29 pm ((PDT))
I went through like 6 bottles of the stuff sold by ghc(also sells oxypowder, which I have used on days when I just can’t get moving). So I actually got this round from them too, not the vitacost like a said a few msg’s back. I have been taking like 10 pills a day for the past week which is 5 times the recommended dose. Maybe I should try some of your blend and the 100+ probiotics since carmen is giving such a good review.
greg
— In candidiasis yahoogroups.com, Wil Spencer <wilspencer …> wrote:
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> I have been following the post and with out knowing any past events I can not say why it did not work. I always recommend a saturation in the beginning, but it does take a little questioning directly to get an accurate view of thing.
> Wil
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> From: DuncanC <duncancrow …>
> To: candidiasis yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, October 23, 2009 11:09:26 AM
> Subject: [candidiasis] Re: SUGARS Duncan
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> Greg, another try of Wil’s SBO? Wil says you can’t get well without it but it didn’t work; now Wil might have some comment to offer on the approach, dosage, brand or whatever.
>
> The common way to get rid of an unknown infection is a broad spectrum antibiotic. Perhaps the abx, then the SBO, then the probiotics and inulin?
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> all good,
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> Duncan
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> — In candidiasis yahoogroups. com, “dreaminginnoother” <dreaminginnoother …> wrote:
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> > it seems you are right. I am in the unlucky f***ed for life category it would seem. My prescription is perhaps a firearm
> >
> > greg
> >
> > — In candidiasis yahoogroups. com, “DuncanC” <duncancrow > wrote:
> > >
> > > Greg, the last time you sought a negative reference on inulin on this list only a couple said they stopped using it and the majority improved. Over the last several years we’ve had four or five who can’t tolerate inulin. The gas dissipated in nearly everyone.
> > >
> > > I have more positive comments on my page, without using the one-liners, than even responded to your question:
> > > http://members. shaw.ca/duncancr ow/comments. html
> > >
> > > The people who can’t take the most common complex carb after starch are certainly a small minority. Nearly all of us can obtain the same bowel health relief that we would have 3,000 years ago with same inulin that ancient Greek and Chinese doctors used
> > >
> > > all good,
> > >
> > > Duncan
> > >
> > > — In candidiasis yahoogroups. com, “dreaminginnoother” <dreaminginnoother > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > and yet, very few people on this list seem to be able to tolerate inulin. In fact most of us feel it worsens the problem.
> > > >
> > > > greg
> > > >
> > > > — In candidiasis yahoogroups. com, “DuncanC” <duncancrow > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > With respect, Will, I’d bet I’ve read as much of the bowel health science as you have, sometimes apparently more, and I point to much of this research on this list and in my inulin references, which compare sugars and starches with inulin and FOS fermentation.
> > > > >
> > > > > We’ve discussed bacteria and several sugars WRT bowel health; it’s a strength in fact that makes this group the best bowel health group on the Internet.
> > > > >
> > > > > Glad to have you on board; reopening previous topics will allow us to revisit these discussions in more detail.
> > > > >
> > > > > Duncan
> > > > >
> > > > > — In candidiasis yahoogroups. com, Wil Spencer <wilspencer > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > One very important thing Duncan is not getting is the recognition of these sugars and starches are done by the bacterium in the gut. With out the bacterium, most everything you eat will be a toxin and not a food. This is where the electrical side of digestion is foreign to most, ecspecially the current old school science trained minds. I explain it a little on my web site www.mbsre-set. com on the education tab.
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> > > > > > Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath
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