Candidiasis Digest Number 5876

By Daniela Murray | October 26, 2009

[candidiasis] Digest Number 5876

There are 15 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1a. Re: More conventional treatments

From: dreaminginnoother

1b. Re: More conventional treatments

From: sol

1c. Re: More conventional treatments

From: douglas richey

1d. Re: More conventional treatments

From: douglas richey

2.1. Re: threelac

From: sol

2.2. Re: threelac

From: Paspenc5 cs.com

3. Duncan you didn’t reply to my…..

From: Bonnie Cole

4. WHEY INFORMATION PLEASE Duncan

From: Bonnie Cole

5. INULIN – author referenced

From: Bonnie Cole

6a. Re: Does Greg have SIBO?

From: Bonnie Cole

7. Cocunut oil

From: dglsrichey

8a. Re: Doug re: die off

From: Jane

8b. Re: Doug re: die off

From: douglas richey

9a. advice

From: daisytiff228 aol.com

10. What caused yours?

From: Paspenc5 cs.com

Messages

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1a. Re: More conventional treatments

Posted by: “dreaminginnoother” dreaminginnoother yahoo.com dreaminginnoother

Date: Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:05 am ((PDT))

As you know, I am in a very similar boat as you, but the one thing I have found to reduce symptoms probably more than anything else is candex. Vitacost has a much cheaper knockoff on the website called candida yeast management. I get white fuzzy stuff in my stools often times after taking this. What else could that stuff be?

greg

— In candidiasis yahoogroups.com, “dglsrichey” <dglsrichey …> wrote:

> What are some more mainstream ways to attack the candida, in addition to regulating my diet. I accept Duncan’s method may be the best, but since I have some problems with the whey and inulin, I would like to be ingesting something, not an antibiotic, to help. A naturapath sold me Yeast Max and I am going to go back to using that. When that runs out aren’t there some things like Oil of Orgeano and other things that will help fight back the candida some and give me some relief from bloating. I intend to get the L-Cystine and already take selenium in my nuts but want a more direct conventional method to use. Thanks Doug

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1b. Re: More conventional treatments

Posted by: “sol” solbun sweetwaterhsa.com cat_thump

Date: Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:45 am ((PDT))

dglsrichey wrote:

> What are some more mainstream ways to attack the candida, in addition

> to regulating my diet.

Antifungals like Nystatin

Caprylic Acid (from coconut, there are some studies saying it is as

effective as Rx antifungals)

also use more coconut oil in the diet

plus the stuff like oil of oregano, GSE, that I have no experience with

LOTS of colloidal silver (I myself used my homemade CS and caprylic acid

with very good results)

sol

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1c. Re: More conventional treatments

Posted by: “douglas richey” dglsrichey yahoo.com dglsrichey

Date: Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:21 pm ((PDT))

Sol, thanks I’ll put that to use. Doug

— On Sun, 10/25/09, sol <solbun sweetwaterhsa.com> wrote:

From: sol <solbun sweetwaterhsa.com>

Subject: Re: [candidiasis] More conventional treatments

To: candidiasis yahoogroups.com

Date: Sunday, October 25, 2009, 2:45 PM

dglsrichey wrote:

> What are some more mainstream ways to attack the candida, in addition

> to regulating my diet.

Antifungals like Nystatin

Caprylic Acid (from coconut, there are some studies saying it is as

effective as Rx antifungals)

also use more coconut oil in the diet

plus the stuff like oil of oregano, GSE, that I have no experience with

LOTS of colloidal silver (I myself used my homemade CS and caprylic acid

with very good results)

sol

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1d. Re: More conventional treatments

Posted by: “douglas richey” dglsrichey yahoo.com dglsrichey

Date: Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:21 pm ((PDT))

Greg, I will look into that. thanks Doug

— On Sun, 10/25/09, dreaminginnoother <dreaminginnoother yahoo.com> wrote:

From: dreaminginnoother <dreaminginnoother yahoo.com>

Subject: [candidiasis] Re: More conventional treatments

To: candidiasis yahoogroups.com

Date: Sunday, October 25, 2009, 2:04 PM

greg

— In candidiasis yahoogroups. com, “dglsrichey” <dglsrichey …> wrote:

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2.1. Re: threelac

Posted by: “sol” solbun sweetwaterhsa.com cat_thump

Date: Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:47 am ((PDT))

douglas richey wrote:

> Thanks Paul, if its effect did not last that does not sound effective.

My two cents, nothing will control candida in a lasting way until the

underlying causes for the overgrowth are eliminated, that usually means

diet, balancing the hormones and so forth.

sol

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2.2. Re: threelac

Posted by: “Paspenc5 cs.com” Paspenc5 cs.com lemonade19882000

Date: Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:52 pm ((PDT))

Hi Doug,

My diet if fairly good, but the reason I use the word “fairly” is because I

have personally found it impossible to remain on a strict anti-Candida

diet. One of the reasons (and there are a few) is that I was losing far too

much weight. I’m 5′8″ and 145 to begin with, which is pretty lean for a guy –

but after 3 weeks on a strict carb-free Candida diet, I lost 22 pounds!

Over a pound a day! I assume a lot of the was water-weight, but I have an

extremely fast metabolism (thyroid issue?) in general, so it’s hard for me to

maintain a decent body weight even when not on the Candida diet. But when I

dropped down to 123 lbs., I both looked — and felt — horrible, and I

didn’t know how much more weight I would lose if I didn’t stop.

How is your diet, Doug? And this is a great topic for the group as a

whole, if anyone else would like to respond.

Paul

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3. Duncan you didn’t reply to my…..

Posted by: “Bonnie Cole” bonnieview sympatico.ca anunnakica

Date: Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:09 pm ((PDT))

Duncan:

I sent you an email a few days ago about what our Hormone Consultant had to

say about Pregnenolone and how unpredictible it can be – you had nothing to

say. I do think that if you had of commented it would have benefited all of

us on this list using hormones.

Also I asked (in another email) if you were MONITORING your levels and HOW

you could decide on how much to give whom (since you and your family are all

taking different amounts) and again you ignored me.

NOW I would like to know HOW it can be bought and WHERE? Thanks for not

ignoring me again.

Bonnie

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4. WHEY INFORMATION PLEASE Duncan

Posted by: “Bonnie Cole” bonnieview sympatico.ca anunnakica

Date: Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:25 pm ((PDT))

Duncan:

I guess my difficulties with Whey came from the fact that I’m having a

problem (yes another one) with Simple Sugars, so with your unlimited

knowledge about Whey, can you tell me if it contains Fructose, Glucose,

Lactose or any of the OSE’s)?

Does it also contain Disaccharides, Monosaccharides or Polysaccharides or

any of the IDE’s?

It’s these sugars that are keeping me from OVERCOMING whatever the hell is

growing down there.

So a word from you would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Bonnie

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5. INULIN – author referenced

Posted by: “Bonnie Cole” bonnieview sympatico.ca anunnakica

Date: Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:26 pm ((PDT))

Do not use any product which contains FOS (fructooligosaccharides). This

form of starch (Inulin) may feed harmful bacteria as well as “friendly”

bacteria and will defeat the benefits of the Specific Carbohydrate Diet.

If you are using preparations containing “friendly” bacteria (which often

contain other ingredients), it is better to use products that contain

lactose (or whey) than FOS.

Taken from – Breaking the Vicous Cycle – Intestinal Health Through Diet by

Elaine Gottschall B.S. M.Sc.

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6a. Re: Does Greg have SIBO?

Posted by: “Bonnie Cole” bonnieview sympatico.ca anunnakica

Date: Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:57 pm ((PDT))

Greg, maybe the Antibiotic NEEDS to be a different one?

Bonnie

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From: candidiasis yahoogroups.com [mailto:candidiasis yahoogroups.com] On

Behalf Of dreaminginnoother

Sent: October 23, 2009 2:40 AM

To: candidiasis yahoogroups.com

Subject: [candidiasis] Re: Does Greg have SIBO?

yeah, it came up negative, but my doc gave me a 10 day round of xifaxan. I

don’t really remember what happened when I took it, but it must have not

been very significant, as everything pretty much stayed the same.

greg

— In candidiasis <mailto:candidiasis%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com,

“Bonnie Cole” <bonnieview …> wrote:

> Greg:

> Did you say previously that you had a Hydrogen Breath Test and it didn’t

> show anything?

> Not all tests are accurate and so I’m wondering if you’re still having gut

> problems after eating SIMPLE SUGARS, you should ask your doctor for an

> Antibiotic like HUMATIN.

> I did it for 10 days once a month for 3 months – helped a lot.

> Bonnie

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7. Cocunut oil

Posted by: “dglsrichey” dglsrichey yahoo.com dglsrichey

Date: Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:49 pm ((PDT))

So I am supposed to take cocunut oil through the day to deal with the die off. I need to know the exact amount again, please and does it work best if spooned out and eaten as is or is it equally effective cooked? If I am eating 3 or more tablespoons a day isn’t that a definite pounds-weight producer? Thanks Doug

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8a. Re: Doug re: die off

Posted by: “Jane” GreenEcoBean cox.net rominick2

Date: Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:51 pm ((PDT))

Doug – This is not an answer to the coconut oil, but just wanted to share

what helps me and others I know with die-off. This is taken from www

enzymestuff.com:

“To help with die-off reactions, you can:

Give more proteases (something like Purify, Repair, Peptizyde, Peptidase

Complete, Vitalzym, ViraStop, Wobenzyme, etc. Between meals…like 3-4

capsules every 3-4 hours)

Give more vitamin C or other antioxidant to help with general detox

Epsom salts baths help with calming and detox

See Epsom salts

Lots of pure water to help flush the gunk out

Rest, rest, sleep, rest

Activated Charcoal which helps absorb toxins

See Activated Charcoal

Stair-stepping the enzymes in this way is easier to manage and just has the

die-off go much more slowly and comfortably for the person. Having stools

move out regularly does a lot to help detox. If constipation is a problem,

consider adding some soluble magnesium to help things along.

With either bacteria or yeast problems, you might want to slowly introduce a

probiotic too. With colon bacteria or Clostridia, Culturelle probiotic is

wonderful. “

There is more to the above on their website and it is worth reading, but I

use their recommendations no matter what I am working on killing off.

Whether it is Candida, Lyme or viral.

I personally use the enzymes between meals, activated charcoal and Epsom

salt baths (4 cups Epsom Salts along with a bottle of Hydrogen Peroxide,

sometimes adding magnesium oil to the mix as well). This made a very big

difference for me. I have also been using the hydrated bentonite once a day

and just went up to twice a day. This seems to help a great deal.

——-Original Message——-

From: dglsrichey

Date: 10/25/2009 7:49:09 PM

To: candidiasis yahoogroups.com

Subject: [candidiasis] Cocunut oil

So I am supposed to take cocunut oil through the day to deal with the die

off. I need to know the exact amount again, please and does it work best if

spooned out and eaten as is or is it equally effective cooked? If I am

eating 3 or more tablespoons a day isn’t that a definite pounds-weight

producer? Thanks Doug

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8b. Re: Doug re: die off

Posted by: “douglas richey” dglsrichey yahoo.com dglsrichey

Date: Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:09 pm ((PDT))

Jane, thanks I need to read over that, packing for a trip tonight. Doug

— On Sun, 10/25/09, Jane <GreenEcoBean cox.net> wrote:

From: Jane <GreenEcoBean cox.net>

Subject: Re: [candidiasis] Doug re: die off

To: candidiasis yahoogroups.com

Date: Sunday, October 25, 2009, 8:23 PM

Doug – This is not an answer to the coconut oil, but just wanted to share

what helps me and others I know with die-off. This is taken from www

enzymestuff. com:

“To help with die-off reactions, you can:

Give more proteases (something like Purify, Repair, Peptizyde, Peptidase

Complete, Vitalzym, ViraStop, Wobenzyme, etc. Between meals…like 3-4

capsules every 3-4 hours)

Give more vitamin C or other antioxidant to help with general detox

Epsom salts baths help with calming and detox

See Epsom salts

Lots of pure water to help flush the gunk out

Rest, rest, sleep, rest

Activated Charcoal which helps absorb toxins

See Activated Charcoal

Stair-stepping the enzymes in this way is easier to manage and just has the

die-off go much more slowly and comfortably for the person. Having stools

move out regularly does a lot to help detox. If constipation is a problem,

consider adding some soluble magnesium to help things along.

With either bacteria or yeast problems, you might want to slowly introduce a

probiotic too. With colon bacteria or Clostridia, Culturelle probiotic is

wonderful. “

There is more to the above on their website and it is worth reading, but I

use their recommendations no matter what I am working on killing off.

Whether it is Candida, Lyme or viral.

I personally use the enzymes between meals, activated charcoal and Epsom

salt baths (4 cups Epsom Salts along with a bottle of Hydrogen Peroxide,

sometimes adding magnesium oil to the mix as well). This made a very big

difference for me. I have also been using the hydrated bentonite once a day

and just went up to twice a day. This seems to help a great deal.

——-Original Message—– –

From: dglsrichey

Date: 10/25/2009 7:49:09 PM

To: candidiasis yahoogroups. com

Subject: [candidiasis] Cocunut oil

So I am supposed to take cocunut oil through the day to deal with the die

off. I need to know the exact amount again, please and does it work best if

spooned out and eaten as is or is it equally effective cooked? If I am

eating 3 or more tablespoons a day isn’t that a definite pounds-weight

producer? Thanks Doug

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9a. advice

Posted by: “daisytiff228 aol.com” daisytiff228 aol.com litldaisytiff

Date: Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:51 pm ((PDT))

Hi everyone,

I’m only 25 and have been suffering with weird health problems for years

that I believe is due to candida. Been tested for so many things.. doctors

just make me worse. Im sure I have candida trouble. I get yeast infections

way too much as well.

I think my candida is due to my 12 mercury amalgam fillings probably. I

plan to find a holistic dentist with a decent price that can remove these over

the next few months. After that, I want to fight the candida and hope that

SOMETHING will get better. Can anyone give me advice on the best ways to

fight candida? Im really unsure about everything and could really use some

help.

Thanks guys,

Tiffany

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10. What caused yours?

Posted by: “Paspenc5 cs.com” Paspenc5 cs.com lemonade19882000

Date: Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:51 pm ((PDT))

I am so happy to have found this group, after suffering alone with this

condition for so many years. No one else in my life has a candida problem, or

seems to even understand it.

I have so many questions to ask you all, but I’ll only ask them one at a

time, so as to not overwhelm everyone.

My first question is: What caused your candida problem?

Even if it just a line or two, I hope many of you will share your story.

As I wrote in my introduction, what caused mine was years of tetracycline

and amoxicillin used to treat acne. I have never been healthy since.

Paul

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