[candidiasis] Digest Number 5885
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There are 22 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1a. Re: Green tea
From: Teddyberen Aol.com
1b. Re: Green tea
From: sol
2a. Re: yeast in blood?
From: Wil Spencer
3a. Re: advice
From: Wil Spencer
4a. Re: Intravenous hydrogen peroxide
From: Wil Spencer
4b. Re: Intravenous hydrogen peroxide
From: DuncanC
4c. Re: Intravenous hydrogen peroxide
From: DuncanC
5a. Re: candida diet/ naturally thriving site
From: can2cis-y yahoo.com
6a. Re: HELP – how to continue with biomed?
From: can2cis-y yahoo.com
6b. Re: HELP – how to continue with biomed?
From: Jane
6c. Re: HELP – how to continue with biomed?
From: Jane
6d. Re: HELP – how to continue with biomed?
From: Wil Spencer
7a. Re: I need advice with DMSO and Miconazole-Duncan or anyone
From: IMS
7b. Re: I need advice with DMSO and Miconazole-Duncan or anyone
From: Wil Spencer
7c. Re: I need advice with DMSO and Miconazole-Duncan or anyone
From: DuncanC
8a. Re: Haital Hernia
From: IMS
8b. Re: Haital Hernia
From: Wil Spencer
9a. Re: yeast in blood
From: Michael Forrest
9b. Re: yeast in blood
From: Wil Spencer
10a. Re: GR8-Dophilus
From: DuncanC
10b. Re: GR8-Dophilus
From: NieeMA
11. Adrenaline – new function for stress hormone
From: DuncanC
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1a. Re: Green tea
Posted by: “Teddyberen Aol.com” Teddyberen Aol.com tzane12
Date: Sun Nov 1, 2009 4:03 am ((PST))
I would think green tea is ok. Just watch what you sweeten it with. I use
stevia only.If anyone has heard any difference, I may be wrong.
DM
In a message dated 10/31/2009 10:12:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
guitarnola yahoo.com writes:
Is green tea acceptable on an anti-candida diet?
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1b. Re: Green tea
Posted by: “sol” solbun sweetwaterhsa.com cat_thump
Date: Sun Nov 1, 2009 10:23 am ((PST))
Teddyberen Aol.com wrote:
> I would think green tea is ok. Just watch what you sweeten it with. I use
> stevia only.If anyone has heard any difference, I may be wrong.
> DM
Green, black, and white tea all are high in fluoride (so is rooibos tea,
which is not a camellia sp.?). The reason is that tea (camellia
sinensis) only grows in high fluoride soils.
Aside from the fluoride issue, caffeine is a problem for some people.
And decaf teas can be even higher in fluoride than non-decafs, if the
water used in the caffeine removal is fluoridated. I would guess the
same applies to water process decaf coffee if the water used is fluoridated.
sol
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2a. Re: yeast in blood?
Posted by: “Wil Spencer” wilspencer rocketmail.com wilspencer rocketmail.com
Date: Sun Nov 1, 2009 6:44 am ((PST))
The statement of “you would have to be on life support to have yeast in the blood” is insane by my experience. Although, you can have a severe candida overgrowth and not have candida albicans in the blood. Most of the time it is the acids and toxins from the candida that are in the blood and I have not heard or seen a medical doctor that tests for these acids and toxins.
If you are interested in new research you can view and download my book “Candida-The Underlying Cause of the Unconscious Conspiracy Against Our Health” from www.environotics.com. This book is a result of over 8 years of clinical research several other researchers also.
Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath
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From: sandi <srobinsoniii yahoo.com>
To: candidiasis yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, October 31, 2009 1:40:42 PM
Subject: [candidiasis] yeast in blood?
Dan dr. showed us what was supposed to be yeast in my son’s blood smear.
Every pediatrician that I have been to in our town just doesn’t believe me. They all say he would have to be a very sick AIDS patient and then I read a blog by a guy who does live blood cell analysis and he said that a person would have to be on life support to have yeast in blood! So which is it. A yeast site showed a slide with yeast in it. I am not questioning my son’s DAN dr. as he has helped my son so much, but I would love some more info so I can call the pediatrician out on this. I just feel uniformed and not prepared to have this battle. Does anyone have any info to help me. I am tired of dealing with these Dr.s in town, but my son’s DAN dr. is in another state so I have to rely on local Dr.s too.
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3a. Re: advice
Posted by: “Wil Spencer” wilspencer rocketmail.com wilspencer rocketmail.com
Date: Sun Nov 1, 2009 6:48 am ((PST))
After using almost natural and medical antifungal on the market, the MMS is still the best in my clinical experience and it is the most inexpensive at a cost of $25 for ruffily a 6 month supply.
Wil
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From: “can2cis-y yahoo.com” <can2cis-y yahoo.com>
To: candidiasis yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, October 26, 2009 12:28:59 PM
Subject: Re: [candidiasis] advice
Tiffany,
fighting candida includes a strict diet regime.
The diet is the most important factor in overcoming candida, as via strict diet you stop feeding your candida. Take your time to get into the diet but don’t take to much time. Candida feeds on sugar and high carbs. Here’s more info: http://www.naturall ythriving. com/basics/ cfd.php
Antifungals will be step 2 and there is much debate over which works best. You will have to find for yourself which works best for you. Alot of people have success with Threelac or Caproil kit.Make sure that you start on low dosage with antifungals and increase slowly.
http://threelac. com/
http://www.inno- vite.com/ en3/products/ Intestinal% 20Cleansing/ index.php The Yeast Buster Kit
hope this helps,
carmen
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From: “daisytiff228 aol.com” <daisytiff228 aol.com>
To: candidiasis yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sun, October 25, 2009 12:51:36 PM
Subject: [candidiasis] advice
Hi everyone,
I’m only 25 and have been suffering with weird health problems for years
that I believe is due to candida. Been tested for so many things.. doctors
just make me worse. Im sure I have candida trouble. I get yeast infections
way too much as well.
I think my candida is due to my 12 mercury amalgam fillings probably. I
plan to find a holistic dentist with a decent price that can remove these over
the next few months. After that, I want to fight the candida and hope that
SOMETHING will get better. Can anyone give me advice on the best ways to
fight candida? Im really unsure about everything and could really use some
help.
Thanks guys,
Tiffany
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4a. Re: Intravenous hydrogen peroxide
Posted by: “Wil Spencer” wilspencer rocketmail.com wilspencer rocketmail.com
Date: Sun Nov 1, 2009 6:52 am ((PST))
But my question is once you take the symptoms away then what? You have done nothing for core health.
Wil
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From: DuncanC <duncancrow shaw.ca>
To: candidiasis yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, October 26, 2009 11:52:29 AM
Subject: [candidiasis] Re: Intravenous hydrogen peroxide
Ozone steam sauna therapy works too, without shredding your veins
You can also use vaginal insufflation while youre in the sauna, or while reading in front of the TV.
Duncan Crow (an ozone therapist in Canada)
— In candidiasis yahoogroups. com, “IMS” <imsinfo … > wrote:
>
> CANDIDA
> I have found it in Testimonials group in Yahoo.
> If somebody tried this too?
>
> Charles H. Farr, M.D., Ph.D., has treated hundreds of patients with chronic
> systemic candida, or yeast infection, using intravenous hydrogen peroxide,
> at his clinic in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma.
>
> A woman, age 34, had been suffering with systemic yeast infection for 5
> years and had taken a barrage of antibiotics and practiced rotation and
> elimination diets, to no effect. She had vaginal yeast infection,
> intermittent diarrhea, headaches, acne, lethargy, joint pain, mental
> confusion, menstrual irregularities, and had been unable to work for 2
> years.
>
> Dr. Farr started her on once weekly intravenous infusions of hydrogen
> peroxide; after only 2 treatments, she reported feeling more alert and able
> to concentrate better and that she was feeling much better. After the third
> treatment, her complexion started to improve, all signs of her vaginitis
> disappeared, and her bowel function became normal. After 8 treatments, she
> was free of all the symptoms that had plagued her for 5 years; and after 2
> more months, she went job-hunting.
>
> -SOURCE: Oxygen Healing Therapies for Optimum Health & Vitality, Nathaniel
> Altman, Healing Arts Press, Rochester, VT, 1995.
>
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4b. Re: Intravenous hydrogen peroxide
Posted by: “DuncanC” duncancrow shaw.ca duncancrow
Date: Sun Nov 1, 2009 4:51 pm ((PST))
Wil: Oxygen does much more than take away symptoms, man! This primer, called The Story of Ozone, should be a delightful read for you. Naturopaths in BC officially adopted this therapy in 1994; maybe some of your colleagues have heard about it.
Duncan
— In candidiasis yahoogroups.com, Wil Spencer <wilspencer …> wrote:
>
> But my question is once you take the symptoms away then what? You have done nothing for core health.
> Wil
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: DuncanC <duncancrow …>
> To: candidiasis yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, October 26, 2009 11:52:29 AM
> Subject: [candidiasis] Re: Intravenous hydrogen peroxide
>
>
> Ozone steam sauna therapy works too, without shredding your veins
>
> You can also use vaginal insufflation while youre in the sauna, or while reading in front of the TV.
>
> Duncan Crow (an ozone therapist in Canada)
>
> — In candidiasis yahoogroups. com, “IMS” <imsinfo > wrote:
> >
> > CANDIDA
> > I have found it in Testimonials group in Yahoo.
> > If somebody tried this too?
> >
> > Charles H. Farr, M.D., Ph.D., has treated hundreds of patients with chronic
> > systemic candida, or yeast infection, using intravenous hydrogen peroxide,
> > at his clinic in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma.
> >
> > A woman, age 34, had been suffering with systemic yeast infection for 5
> > years and had taken a barrage of antibiotics and practiced rotation and
> > elimination diets, to no effect. She had vaginal yeast infection,
> > intermittent diarrhea, headaches, acne, lethargy, joint pain, mental
> > confusion, menstrual irregularities, and had been unable to work for 2
> > years.
> >
> > Dr. Farr started her on once weekly intravenous infusions of hydrogen
> > peroxide; after only 2 treatments, she reported feeling more alert and able
> > to concentrate better and that she was feeling much better. After the third
> > treatment, her complexion started to improve, all signs of her vaginitis
> > disappeared, and her bowel function became normal. After 8 treatments, she
> > was free of all the symptoms that had plagued her for 5 years; and after 2
> > more months, she went job-hunting.
> >
> > -SOURCE: Oxygen Healing Therapies for Optimum Health & Vitality, Nathaniel
> > Altman, Healing Arts Press, Rochester, VT, 1995.
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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4c. Re: Intravenous hydrogen peroxide
Posted by: “DuncanC” duncancrow shaw.ca duncancrow
Date: Sun Nov 1, 2009 5:19 pm ((PST))
Here’s a The Story Of Ozone link:
<http://www.smile.org.au/OurApproachToCancers/TheStoryOfOzone.htm>
Duncan
— In candidiasis yahoogroups.com, “DuncanC” <duncancrow …> wrote:
>
> Wil: Oxygen does much more than take away symptoms, man! This primer, called The Story of Ozone, should be a delightful read for you. Naturopaths in BC officially adopted this therapy in 1994; maybe some of your colleagues have heard about it.
>
> Duncan
>
> — In candidiasis yahoogroups.com, Wil Spencer <wilspencer > wrote:
> >
> > But my question is once you take the symptoms away then what? You have done nothing for core health.
> > Wil
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: DuncanC <duncancrow >
> > To: candidiasis yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Mon, October 26, 2009 11:52:29 AM
> > Subject: [candidiasis] Re: Intravenous hydrogen peroxide
> >
> >
> > Ozone steam sauna therapy works too, without shredding your veins
> >
> > You can also use vaginal insufflation while youre in the sauna, or while reading in front of the TV.
> >
> > Duncan Crow (an ozone therapist in Canada)
> >
> > — In candidiasis yahoogroups. com, “IMS” <imsinfo > wrote:
> > >
> > > CANDIDA
> > > I have found it in Testimonials group in Yahoo.
> > > If somebody tried this too?
> > >
> > > Charles H. Farr, M.D., Ph.D., has treated hundreds of patients with chronic
> > > systemic candida, or yeast infection, using intravenous hydrogen peroxide,
> > > at his clinic in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma.
> > >
> > > A woman, age 34, had been suffering with systemic yeast infection for 5
> > > years and had taken a barrage of antibiotics and practiced rotation and
> > > elimination diets, to no effect. She had vaginal yeast infection,
> > > intermittent diarrhea, headaches, acne, lethargy, joint pain, mental
> > > confusion, menstrual irregularities, and had been unable to work for 2
> > > years.
> > >
> > > Dr. Farr started her on once weekly intravenous infusions of hydrogen
> > > peroxide; after only 2 treatments, she reported feeling more alert and able
> > > to concentrate better and that she was feeling much better. After the third
> > > treatment, her complexion started to improve, all signs of her vaginitis
> > > disappeared, and her bowel function became normal. After 8 treatments, she
> > > was free of all the symptoms that had plagued her for 5 years; and after 2
> > > more months, she went job-hunting.
> > >
> > > -SOURCE: Oxygen Healing Therapies for Optimum Health & Vitality, Nathaniel
> > > Altman, Healing Arts Press, Rochester, VT, 1995.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
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5a. Re: candida diet/ naturally thriving site
Posted by: “can2cis-y yahoo.com” can2cis-y yahoo.com can_cis
Date: Sun Nov 1, 2009 8:27 am ((PST))
Tiffany,
yes, I have over a year of strict candida diet and was gluten free prior to that.
In my experience I benefited from probiotics soone in the diet and not later.
Currenlty I am taking MMS, 100+ probiotics and lateroflora and these provide the best results I’m getting ever.
Some stay longer on the program then others. Your body will tell you, you’ll know.
Do some reasearch on amalgam fillings and see what is the common factor then decide what is best for you. I like what I read about MMS and I like how my body likes it to.
You can start the diet right away, no need to wait.
enjoy the ride,
carmen
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From: “daisytiff228 aol.com” <daisytiff228 aol.com>
To: candidiasis yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, October 29, 2009 2:21:54 PM
Subject: [candidiasis] candida diet/ naturally thriving site
Carmen,
Thanks for the website you gave me. Very informative. Have you, or anyone
else in this site followed the candida diet, then did the antifungal
treatment, then finished with the probiotics.
I am wondering how long you must stay on each step. i.e., how long do I
stay on the diet for before I move on to antifungals, etc?
I believe my candida trouble is coming from my amalgams (have about 12). I
am going to concentrate on getting them out first, than (possibly) chelate,
then do the candida treatment.
thanks again everyone,
Tiffany
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6a. Re: HELP – how to continue with biomed?
Posted by: “can2cis-y yahoo.com” can2cis-y yahoo.com can_cis
Date: Sun Nov 1, 2009 8:37 am ((PST))
Emily have you tried smaller does of the B vitamins?
maybe 1/4 the recommended dose when you try again?
Or after you eliminate all the supps, introduce only 1 supp per week and see how it goes. re-introduce the Bs the last as they are energizing.
Is your sone autistic? Does he follow a sugar free, dairy free and grain free diet?
don’t give up. hang in there.
carmen
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From: emilynk.chan <emilynk.chan yahoo.com>
To: candidiasis yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, October 29, 2009 5:27:33 AM
Subject: [candidiasis] HELP – how to continue with biomed?
Hi Listmates,
I have been doing biomed on my son for 2 years with little progress. Biggest problem is my son seems intolerant of most of the supps I gave and he falls ill easily and then becomes even more intolerant of the supps. So these 2 years have been like start-stop, start-stop for me with little progress.
Just recently I started doing antifungals on him and restarting on supplements again. But as soon as I add more supps (esp vit B’s), he starts to show signs of distress with a lot of aggitation, temper tantrums, spaciness, unable to focus, increased verbal stims and other stims, unresponsive. So a week ago I decided to stop most of the supps and then he became relaxed, happy with little stim and performing much, much better at therapy class, no more teeth grinding.
The only supps he was on before I stopped this time round were zinc, Magnesium citrate, Vitamin B6, P5P, Biotin, MB12 shots, Methylfolate, various probiotics, transfer factor, taurine. A wek ago I stopped everything except zinc, probiotics, transfer factor and antifungal medicine with occasional charcoal – and he began to feel and perform so much better. Despite that his OAT and other tests shows that he still has a lot of deficiencies – like VitB6, folic acid, B12, selenium, Vit D, Vit E.
I am really puzzled – so does that mean I will never be able to upload him with all the supps that he needs?
Any input would be hugely appreciated.
REgards,
Emily
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6b. Re: HELP – how to continue with biomed?
Posted by: “Jane” GreenEcoBean cox.net rominick2
Date: Sun Nov 1, 2009 10:50 am ((PST))
You could also try Nano Stess B, a highly absorbable B complex vitamin.
——-Original Message——-
From: can2cis-y yahoo.com
Date: 11/1/2009 11:37:23 AM
To: candidiasis yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [candidiasis] HELP – how to continue with biomed?
Emily have you tried smaller does of the B vitamins?
maybe 1/4 the recommended dose when you try again?
Or after you eliminate all the supps, introduce only 1 supp per week and see
how it goes. re-introduce the Bs the last as they are energizing.
Is your sone autistic? Does he follow a sugar free, dairy free and grain
free diet?
don’t give up. hang in there.
carmen
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From: emilynk.chan <emilynk.chan yahoo.com>
To: candidiasis yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, October 29, 2009 5:27:33 AM
Subject: [candidiasis] HELP – how to continue with biomed?
Hi Listmates,
I have been doing biomed on my son for 2 years with little progress. Biggest
problem is my son seems intolerant of most of the supps I gave and he falls
ill easily and then becomes even more intolerant of the supps. So these 2
years have been like start-stop, start-stop for me with little progress.
Just recently I started doing antifungals on him and restarting on
supplements again. But as soon as I add more supps (esp vit B’s), he starts
to show signs of distress with a lot of aggitation, temper tantrums,
spaciness, unable to focus, increased verbal stims and other stims,
unresponsive. So a week ago I decided to stop most of the supps and then he
became relaxed, happy with little stim and performing much, much better at
therapy class, no more teeth grinding.
The only supps he was on before I stopped this time round were zinc,
Magnesium citrate, Vitamin B6, P5P, Biotin, MB12 shots, Methylfolate,
various probiotics, transfer factor, taurine. A wek ago I stopped everything
except zinc, probiotics, transfer factor and antifungal medicine with
occasional charcoal – and he began to feel and perform so much better.
Despite that his OAT and other tests shows that he still has a lot of
deficiencies – like VitB6, folic acid, B12, selenium, Vit D, Vit E.
I am really puzzled – so does that mean I will never be able to upload him
with all the supps that he needs?
Any input would be hugely appreciated.
REgards,
Emily
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6c. Re: HELP – how to continue with biomed?
Posted by: “Jane” GreenEcoBean cox.net rominick2
Date: Sun Nov 1, 2009 10:51 am ((PST))
Emily -
I was told (by a ND) not too long ago that my son (also autism) could not
handle any supplements until I worked on his kidneys.
So maybe look at organ support for a bit and then try other supplements down
the road.
Jane
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From: emilynk.chan <emilynk.chan yahoo.com>
To: candidiasis yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, October 29, 2009 5:27:33 AM
Subject: [candidiasis] HELP – how to continue with biomed?
Hi Listmates,
I have been doing biomed on my son for 2 years with little progress. Biggest
problem is my son seems intolerant of most of the supps I gave and he falls
ill easily and then becomes even more intolerant of the supps. So these 2
years have been like start-stop, start-stop for me with little progress.
Just recently I started doing antifungals on him and restarting on
supplements again. But as soon as I add more supps (esp vit B’s), he starts
to show signs of distress with a lot of aggitation, temper tantrums,
spaciness, unable to focus, increased verbal stims and other stims,
unresponsive. So a week ago I decided to stop most of the supps and then he
became relaxed, happy with little stim and performing much, much better at
therapy class, no more teeth grinding.
The only supps he was on before I stopped this time round were zinc,
Magnesium citrate, Vitamin B6, P5P, Biotin, MB12 shots, Methylfolate,
various probiotics, transfer factor, taurine. A wek ago I stopped everything
except zinc, probiotics, transfer factor and antifungal medicine with
occasional charcoal – and he began to feel and perform so much better.
Despite that his OAT and other tests shows that he still has a lot of
deficiencies – like VitB6, folic acid, B12, selenium, Vit D, Vit E.
I am really puzzled – so does that mean I will never be able to upload him
with all the supps that he needs?
Any input would be hugely appreciated.
REgards,
Emily
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6d. Re: HELP – how to continue with biomed?
Posted by: “Wil Spencer” wilspencer rocketmail.com wilspencer rocketmail.com
Date: Sun Nov 1, 2009 1:01 pm ((PST))
Just to share a bit about the natural way our bodies work.
Vitamins by nature are synthesized in the intestines by the microorganisms that, in a healthy gut, create them from the food we eat.
That is why in todays industrial society taking B vitamins are so stimulating. Most people in this society are so void of microorganisms it is amazing!
These microorganisms are also responsible for natural toxin chelation, protein creation, amino acid recognition, immunity and more.
That is why I use and recognize the paramount importance of these little creatures!!!
Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath
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From: Jane <GreenEcoBean cox.net>
To: candidiasis yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, November 1, 2009 11:46:44 AM
Subject: Re: [candidiasis] HELP – how to continue with biomed?
You could also try Nano Stess B, a highly absorbable B complex vitamin.
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From: can2cis-y yahoo. com
Date: 11/1/2009 11:37:23 AM
To: candidiasis yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [candidiasis] HELP – how to continue with biomed?
Emily have you tried smaller does of the B vitamins?
maybe 1/4 the recommended dose when you try again?
Or after you eliminate all the supps, introduce only 1 supp per week and see
how it goes. re-introduce the Bs the last as they are energizing.
Is your sone autistic? Does he follow a sugar free, dairy free and grain
free diet?
don’t give up. hang in there.
carmen
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From: emilynk.chan <emilynk.chan yahoo.com>
To: candidiasis yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thu, October 29, 2009 5:27:33 AM
Subject: [candidiasis] HELP – how to continue with biomed?
Hi Listmates,
I have been doing biomed on my son for 2 years with little progress. Biggest
problem is my son seems intolerant of most of the supps I gave and he falls
ill easily and then becomes even more intolerant of the supps. So these 2
years have been like start-stop, start-stop for me with little progress.
Just recently I started doing antifungals on him and restarting on
supplements again. But as soon as I add more supps (esp vit B’s), he starts
to show signs of distress with a lot of aggitation, temper tantrums,
spaciness, unable to focus, increased verbal stims and other stims,
unresponsive. So a week ago I decided to stop most of the supps and then he
became relaxed, happy with little stim and performing much, much better at
therapy class, no more teeth grinding.
The only supps he was on before I stopped this time round were zinc,
Magnesium citrate, Vitamin B6, P5P, Biotin, MB12 shots, Methylfolate,
various probiotics, transfer factor, taurine. A wek ago I stopped everything
except zinc, probiotics, transfer factor and antifungal medicine with
occasional charcoal – and he began to feel and perform so much better.
Despite that his OAT and other tests shows that he still has a lot of
deficiencies – like VitB6, folic acid, B12, selenium, Vit D, Vit E.
I am really puzzled – so does that mean I will never be able to upload him
with all the supps that he needs?
Any input would be hugely appreciated.
REgards,
Emily
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7a. Re: I need advice with DMSO and Miconazole-Duncan or anyone
Posted by: “IMS” imsinfo yahoo.com imsinfo
Date: Sun Nov 1, 2009 11:04 am ((PST))
I have never heard about cellulites from candida. I have light cellulites on my legs from very young age. Is that mean that I had candida from that age?
Lisa
— In candidiasis yahoogroups.com, Wil Spencer <wilspencer …> wrote:
>
> DMSO is good for the skin, but I prefer to use colostrum based products for the skin. Colostrum has a much better electrical and biological availibity and heals and feed the body.
> Cellulitis is an infection starting with the connective tissue. All connective tissue of the body is part of the electrical system, and candida/candida toxins are caustic nerotoxins that will eventually cause these infections.
>
> Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath
>
>
>
>
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> From: mike <ikelo …>
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7b. Re: I need advice with DMSO and Miconazole-Duncan or anyone
Posted by: “Wil Spencer” wilspencer rocketmail.com wilspencer rocketmail.com
Date: Sun Nov 1, 2009 12:38 pm ((PST))
It sure is a possible. I was born with a severe candida over growth. My mother had a severe over growth to the point her breast milk was so toxic it just about killed me the first week of my life. The candida overgrowth was with me till I was 24 years old. I can tell I have flareups when I am under stress and abuse my body and burn my candle on all ends.
Wil
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Subject: [candidiasis] Re: I need advice with DMSO and Miconazole-Duncan or anyone
I have never heard about cellulites from candida. I have light cellulites on my legs from very young age. Is that mean that I had candida from that age?
Lisa
— In candidiasis yahoogroups. com, Wil Spencer <wilspencer …> wrote:
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> DMSO is good for the skin, but I prefer to use colostrum based products for the skin. Colostrum has a much better electrical and biological availibity and heals and feed the body.
> Cellulitis is an infection starting with the connective tissue. All connective tissue of the body is part of the electrical system, and candida/candida toxins are caustic nerotoxins that will eventually cause these infections.
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7c. Re: I need advice with DMSO and Miconazole-Duncan or anyone
Posted by: “DuncanC” duncancrow shaw.ca duncancrow
Date: Sun Nov 1, 2009 5:02 pm ((PST))
Just to put a point on it, you stated you have not been able to cure your own candida, Wil. Are you still low carbing?
Duncan
— In candidiasis yahoogroups.com, Wil Spencer <wilspencer …> wrote:
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> It sure is a possible. I was born with a severe candida over growth. My mother had a severe over growth to the point her breast milk was so toxic it just about killed me the first week of my life. The candida overgrowth was with me till I was 24 years old. I can tell I have flareups when I am under stress and abuse my body and burn my candle on all ends.
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> — In candidiasis yahoogroups. com, Wil Spencer <wilspencer …> wrote:
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> > DMSO is good for the skin, but I prefer to use colostrum based products for the skin. Colostrum has a much better electrical and biological availibity and heals and feed the body.
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8a. Re: Haital Hernia
Posted by: “IMS” imsinfo yahoo.com imsinfo
Date: Sun Nov 1, 2009 11:04 am ((PST))
Wat is that mean? Gluten reaction?
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> I had one in the past and now it is gone but still have reflux.
> I have red hernicould be result of gluten intolerance but it may be also from inflammation from candida or high esonophylls count in gut.
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8b. Re: Haital Hernia
Posted by: “Wil Spencer” wilspencer rocketmail.com wilspencer rocketmail.com
Date: Sun Nov 1, 2009 12:46 pm ((PST))
That means our bodies are not designed by nature to ingest grain, dry ground grain or any form of dry ground grain. The WHO (world health organization) has stated this in there documents, Weston Price Foundation, a book”Electrical Nutrition” and “Fibermenace”, Saul Liss PhD and several other are saying the same thing. I have been trying to disprove this in my clinic for over 8 years and we are created in a way by nature and nature has a few rules.
When we ingest grain, we cause an acid state in our body. I will be glad to explain more but for now this is all.
Wil Spencer
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Wat is that mean? Gluten reaction?
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> I had one in the past and now it is gone but still have reflux.
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9a. Re: yeast in blood
Posted by: “Michael Forrest” a57ngel yahoo.com a57ngel
Date: Sun Nov 1, 2009 11:48 am ((PST))
A doctor who looked at my blood told me that half the people he sees have yeast in their blood. very common.
>Dan dr. showed us what was supposed to be yeast in my son’s blood smear.
Every pediatrician that I have been to in our town just doesn’t believe me. They all say he would have to be a very sick AIDS patient and then I read a blog by a guy who does live blood cell analysis and he said that a person would have to be on life support to have yeast in blood! So which is it. A yeast site showed a slide with yeast in it. I am not questioning my son’s DAN dr. as he has helped my son so much, but I would love some more info so I can call the pediatrician out on this. I just feel uniformed and not prepared to have this battle. Does anyone have any info to help me. I am tired of dealing with these Dr.s in town, but my son’s DAN dr. is in another state so I have to rely on local Dr.s too.
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9b. Re: yeast in blood
Posted by: “Wil Spencer” wilspencer rocketmail.com wilspencer rocketmail.com
Date: Sun Nov 1, 2009 12:34 pm ((PST))
It may be very common today, but that does not make it correct.
Candida is one of the 700+ microorganisms in our digestive tract by nature. It is not correct for candida to be in the blood. If candida is in the blood it is a sign of an systemic overgrowth and that is not by nature, it is a sign of a massive gut imbalance!
Wil Spencer
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A doctor who looked at my blood told me that half the people he sees have yeast in their blood. very common.
>Dan dr. showed us what was supposed to be yeast in my son’s blood smear.
Every pediatrician that I have been to in our town just doesn’t believe me. They all say he would have to be a very sick AIDS patient and then I read a blog by a guy who does live blood cell analysis and he said that a person would have to be on life support to have yeast in blood! So which is it. A yeast site showed a slide with yeast in it. I am not questioning my son’s DAN dr. as he has helped my son so much, but I would love some more info so I can call the pediatrician out on this. I just feel uniformed and not prepared to have this battle. Does anyone have any info to help me. I am tired of dealing with these Dr.s in town, but my son’s DAN dr. is in another state so I have to rely on local Dr.s too.
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10a. Re: GR8-Dophilus
Posted by: “DuncanC” duncancrow shaw.ca duncancrow
Date: Sun Nov 1, 2009 4:03 pm ((PST))
Wil, I’m unaware of evidence that emotional stress wipes out huge amounts of bacteria and I would like the references. If it were true we could use strees as a cure! I’m also reluctant to accept that large amounts of adrenaline are released in the gut, at least in anywhere near the amounts that could change the contents of fecal slurry. Where did you get that tidbit? Couldn’t find anything in peer-review there either.
Duncan
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> I have to say Duncan, your mathematics and fecal slurry talk is neat. You have not taken into account from any emotional stress which can wipe out huge amounts of bacterium in a matter of minutes. Just having fear or worry is enough to send enough adrenaline into the gut to cause this kind of imbalance.
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> This is why I have to look at health from a Wholistic view. This is what the new science is telling us, we are part of nature.
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> To: candidiasis yahoogroups.com
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> Subject: [candidiasis] Re: GR8-Dophilus
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> Douglas, one capsule of probiotic is about the right amount of organisms to colonise about 2 CCs of fecal slurry if the ecology is about 50% out. They will still have to be fed in order to adhere to the gut lining and maintain the bowel population even though it’s being evacuated.
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10b. Re: GR8-Dophilus
Posted by: “NieeMA” nieema0 yahoo.com nieema0
Date: Sun Nov 1, 2009 6:14 pm ((PST))
Fear and adrenaline are sooo in large amounts in slaughtered meat that for years people advised people to raise and butcher their own beef to keep adrenaline out of the meat.
Just being away from the smell of death made such a difference in the meat. I know this first hand from the meats I eat in the Nederlands. The proof of the difference in meat with adrenaline and meat without was so big…I told the whole group about it in 2003.
It also had a profound effect on my bowls also.
Stress produces the hormone cortisol right! Cortisol would be a perfect hormone to wipe out god things in the gut…cortisol has been know to do that.
I think that is in the medical journals.
— On Sun, 11/1/09, DuncanC <duncancrow shaw.ca> wrote:
From: DuncanC <duncancrow shaw.ca>
Subject: [candidiasis] Re: GR8-Dophilus
To: candidiasis yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 1, 2009, 6:03 PM
Wil, I’m unaware of evidence that emotional stress wipes out huge amounts of bacteria and I would like the references. If it were true we could use strees as a cure! I’m also reluctant to accept that large amounts of adrenaline are released in the gut, at least in anywhere near the amounts that could change the contents of fecal slurry. Where did you get that tidbit? Couldn’t find anything in peer-review there either.
Duncan
— In candidiasis yahoogroups. com, Wil Spencer <wilspencer …> wrote:
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> I have to say Duncan, your mathematics and fecal slurry talk is neat. You have not taken into account from any emotional stress which can wipe out huge amounts of bacterium in a matter of minutes. Just having fear or worry is enough to send enough adrenaline into the gut to cause this kind of imbalance.
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> This is why I have to look at health from a Wholistic view. This is what the new science is telling us, we are part of nature.
>
> Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath
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> ____________ _________ _________ __
> From: DuncanC <duncancrow …>
> To: candidiasis yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Fri, October 30, 2009 11:12:41 AM
> Subject: [candidiasis] Re: GR8-Dophilus
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> Douglas, one capsule of probiotic is about the right amount of organisms to colonise about 2 CCs of fecal slurry if the ecology is about 50% out. They will still have to be fed in order to adhere to the gut lining and maintain the bowel population even though it’s being evacuated.
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> You can readily see why the dose-related effect runs you into dozens if not hundreds of caps or more than a pouch of VSL#3 per day. Using VSL#3 that as a guide, the 450 billion organisms in a single dose would be contained in about 100-150 capsules.
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> So, a probiotic of 20 capsules per dose seems low-end even as a starter culture.
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> By feeding the culture a few spoonfuls of prebiotic you can grow the balance of the organisms you need in a day.
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> all good,
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> — In candidiasis yahoogroups. com, “dglsrichey” <dglsrichey …> wrote:
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11. Adrenaline – new function for stress hormone
Posted by: “DuncanC” duncancrow shaw.ca duncancrow
Date: Sun Nov 1, 2009 4:11 pm ((PST))
I looked up adrenaline and gut bacteria and found that it actually enhances host defences:
Adrenaline – new function for stress hormone
The successful interaction of bacterial pathogens with host tissues requires the sensing of specific chemical and physical cues. Adrenaline and noradrenaline have recently been shown to act synergistically with a bacterial quorum sensing molecule to affect virulence and motility in Escherichia coli. Does the same happen in Salmonella?
Arthur Thompson and Jay Hinton have combined forces with scientists at the Universities of Newcastle, Lancaster and Nottingham to investigate whether adrenaline has an impact on the biology of Salmonella spp. The research team found that Salmonella are able to sense adrenaline, which may provide an environmental cue for the induction of the Salmonella stress response in anticipation of imminent, host-derived oxidative stress. They point out that adrenaline may also enhance host defences by lowering the antimicrobial peptide resistance of the bacteria; this is the first time such a function has been described for a mammalian hormone.
Further reading: Karavolos, M. H. et al. (2008) Adrenaline modulates the global transcriptional profile of Salmonella revealing a role in the antimicrobial peptide and oxidative stress resistance responses. BMC Genomics at www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2164/9/458
Funding: Medical Research Council; BBSRC grant; BBSRC Core Strategic Grant; BBSRC DTA PhD studentship
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